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Re: Will cowboys make the playoffs? [Re: H2O Seeker] #13346784 11/19/19 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by H2O Seeker
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^^^^True statement. Zeke forces defenses to stack 7-8 guys up front ...leaving easier coverages. Zeke doesn’t “suck”, isn’t “over paid”, nor “lazy after the contract”. He’s getting defensive coordinators trying to prevent him from gashing them and this is making Dak’s job easier.


One of the Ticket hosts and I believe an ESPN radio host did a similar study to compare Zekes numbers from the 2017 season to the 2018 season. The study was based around 1. Down/distance; and 2. numbers in the box. His ykards per carry are down but so are his number of carries vs. an 7-8 man front. The 'eye test' (and film) also suggested he is not making the first contact miss as he did last year.


I think missing training camp hurts no-matter what anyone says. It's a rhythm and flow thing.


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Re: Will cowboys make the playoffs? [Re: Frank the Tank] #13346787 11/19/19 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank the Tank
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Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen
^^^^True statement. Zeke forces defenses to stack 7-8 guys up front ...leaving easier coverages. Zeke doesn’t “suck”, isn’t “over paid”, nor “lazy after the contract”. He’s getting defensive coordinators trying to prevent him from gashing them and this is making Dak’s job easier.


One of the Ticket hosts and I believe an ESPN radio host did a similar study to compare Zekes numbers from the 2017 season to the 2018 season. The study was based around 1. Down/distance; and 2. numbers in the box. His ykards per carry are down but so are his number of carries vs. an 7-8 man front. The 'eye test' (and film) also suggested he is not making the first contact miss as he did last year.


I think missing training camp hurts no-matter what anyone says. It's a rhythm and flow thing.


Well....the defense was there for all of training camp and........

Re: Will cowboys make the playoffs? [Re: junbengreat] #13346793 11/19/19 04:51 PM
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Dak and the Cowboys have a chance to get a defining win Sunday....nobody gives them any chance of course. Nobody has won in the frozen northeast in 25 months. Number 1 offense against number 1 defense. Dallas should be looking at everything they did well last week, and do something else. Don't play to the Pats strength. Use Zeke and Pollard at the same time the whole game, run big on big until they stop you because that secondary is not like any other secondary Dak played. If he throws the ball 46 times he will lose. If he proves me wrong I will be more shocked than I have ever been watching the Cowboys. Find a way to absolutely come after the old stationary one relentlessly for 60 minutes and who knows what might happen.


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Re: Will cowboys make the playoffs? [Re: txmasterpo] #13346829 11/19/19 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by txmasterpo
Dak and the Cowboys have a chance to get a defining win Sunday....nobody gives them any chance of course. Nobody has won in the frozen northeast in 25 months. Number 1 offense against number 1 defense. Dallas should be looking at everything they did well last week, and do something else. Don't play to the Pats strength. Use Zeke and Pollard at the same time the whole game, run big on big until they stop you because that secondary is not like any other secondary Dak played. If he throws the ball 46 times he will lose. If he proves me wrong I will be more shocked than I have ever been watching the Cowboys. Find a way to absolutely come after the old stationary one relentlessly for 60 minutes and who knows what might happen.

Very well said, I give the Cowboys very little chance of going there and coming away with a win, if they remain status quo as far as the way they play I give them 0 chance. The Cowboys are going to have to have a couple of big turn overs or they need Brady to twist his ankle or have to go into concussion protocol call in order to have a chance.


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Re: Will cowboys make the playoffs? [Re: SteezMacQueen] #13346830 11/19/19 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen
I think they will make the playoffs. They have the talent and a top 5 QB.


Dallas DOES NOT have a Top 5 QB!

https://www.footballdb.com/stats/stats.html?


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Re: Will cowboys make the playoffs? [Re: fouzman] #13346839 11/19/19 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by fouzman
Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen
I think they will make the playoffs. They have the talent and a top 5 QB.


Dallas DOES NOT have a Top 5 QB!

https://www.footballdb.com/stats/stats.html?



He's still ahead of Watson though...... woot

In all seriousness it depends on what list or what stat you go by. In regards to QBR he is. I think its great he is at least in the MVP Top 5 discussion for this year.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/11/19/20972465/dak-prescott-dallas-cowboys-mvp-candidate

Re: Will cowboys make the playoffs? [Re: Mark Perry] #13346873 11/19/19 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Perry
Originally Posted by fouzman
Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen
I think they will make the playoffs. They have the talent and a top 5 QB.


Dallas DOES NOT have a Top 5 QB!

https://www.footballdb.com/stats/stats.html?



He's still ahead of Watson though...... woot

In all seriousness it depends on what list or what stat you go by. In regards to QBR he is. I think its great he is at least in the MVP Top 5 discussion for this year.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/11/19/20972465/dak-prescott-dallas-cowboys-mvp-candidate

Not going to argue about who is the MVP, all the stats they post up are all nonsense, how could any of them hold water because all teams do not play each other, just like the stupid number 1 defense New England has, who the hell did they play ?


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Re: Will cowboys make the playoffs? [Re: Happykamper] #13346879 11/19/19 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Happykamper
Originally Posted by Mark Perry
Originally Posted by fouzman
Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen
I think they will make the playoffs. They have the talent and a top 5 QB.


Dallas DOES NOT have a Top 5 QB!

https://www.footballdb.com/stats/stats.html?



He's still ahead of Watson though...... woot

In all seriousness it depends on what list or what stat you go by. In regards to QBR he is. I think its great he is at least in the MVP Top 5 discussion for this year.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/11/19/20972465/dak-prescott-dallas-cowboys-mvp-candidate

Not going to argue about who is the MVP, all the stats they post up are all nonsense, how could any of them hold water because all teams do not play each other, just like the stupid number 1 defense New England has, who the hell did they play ?


Hard not to give it to Jackson so far. He is the key to that team's success. He is an absolute beast at what he does. I would put Wilson second and after that its a toss up with Mahomes, Dak McCaffrey, Cook etc.

Re: Will cowboys make the playoffs? [Re: junbengreat] #13346890 11/19/19 06:28 PM
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Bottom line for me is I’m glad Dak’s my teams QB. Don’t give a chit what anyone else says.


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Re: Will cowboys make the playoffs? [Re: Happykamper] #13346892 11/19/19 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Happykamper
Originally Posted by Mark Perry
Originally Posted by fouzman
Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen
I think they will make the playoffs. They have the talent and a top 5 QB.


Dallas DOES NOT have a Top 5 QB!

https://www.footballdb.com/stats/stats.html?



He's still ahead of Watson though...... woot

In all seriousness it depends on what list or what stat you go by. In regards to QBR he is. I think its great he is at least in the MVP Top 5 discussion for this year.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/11/19/20972465/dak-prescott-dallas-cowboys-mvp-candidate

Not going to argue about who is the MVP, all the stats they post up are all nonsense, how could any of them hold water because all teams do not play each other, just like the stupid number 1 defense New England has, who the hell did they play ?

If you don’t look at stats, what do you look at?

Re: Will cowboys make the playoffs? [Re: Coach Hark] #13346894 11/19/19 06:30 PM
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Bottom line for me is I’m glad Dak’s my teams QB. Don’t give a chit what anyone else says.


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Re: Will cowboys make the playoffs? [Re: fouzman] #13346902 11/19/19 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by fouzman
Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen
I think they will make the playoffs. They have the talent and a top 5 QB.


Dallas DOES NOT have a Top 5 QB!

https://www.footballdb.com/stats/stats.html?


Coach Harkness said stats are for losers Fouz!


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Re: Will cowboys make the playoffs? [Re: junbengreat] #13346904 11/19/19 06:37 PM
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So did Jerry Jones!


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Re: Will cowboys make the playoffs? [Re: junbengreat] #13346905 11/19/19 06:39 PM
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Line up Bennett next to Quinn and have them go after Brady on every play. Accept a few personal fouls for late hits.
Hit him hard and often. Lawrence and the linebackers play the run. On offense ,self scout , break tendencies, throw out everything that has worked , show some imagination on play calling. different game plan for first and second halves, to throw off
halftime adjustments,,
Might just have a chance


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Re: Will cowboys make the playoffs? [Re: txmasterpo] #13346908 11/19/19 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by txmasterpo
Originally Posted by fouzman
Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen
I think they will make the playoffs. They have the talent and a top 5 QB.


Dallas DOES NOT have a Top 5 QB!

https://www.footballdb.com/stats/stats.html?


Coach Harkness said stats are for losers Fouz!


Yep, stats and rankings don’t mean anything. The stat they go by is who has the most points after 60 minutes. Everything that happens in that 60:minutes doesn’t mean squat. Who’s on the left side after the game is the most important stat. You agree txmaster???

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