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 Re: Houston Spygate
[Re: Keystone]
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11/13/19 04:14 PM
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Most if not all teams try to steal signs .During my high school playing days in the year 1812 lol..
Our third base coach when he could see the catcher's signs #1 fastball #2 curve ball, when a fastball was coming he would call you by your first name..Example, let's go Mickey watch it over now.first name meaning fast ball on the way...#2 Let's go Mantle watch it over you can do it..curveball coming,also other verbiage Pick you out one..1 fastball coming, also coming too you now be ready..two..curve ball coming,nothing new been going on a long time. Coaches and/or players stealing signs is one thing stealing them electronically as described is completely different.
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Re: Houston Spygate
[Re: Hard Rain]
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11/13/19 04:24 PM
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Keystone
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Most if not all teams try to steal signs .During my high school playing days in the year 1812 lol..
Our third base coach when he could see the catcher's signs #1 fastball #2 curve ball, when a fastball was coming he would call you by your first name..Example, let's go Mickey watch it over now.first name meaning fast ball on the way...#2 Let's go Mantle watch it over you can do it..curveball coming,also other verbiage Pick you out one..1 fastball coming, also coming too you now be ready..two..curve ball coming,nothing new been going on a long time. Coaches and/or players stealing signs is one thing stealing them electronically as described is completely different. True however back in those days we didn't have electronics,but if we did I'm sure they would have been used..Sad when a team is great some will try anything to disrupt them, kinna like the New England Patriots inflated football it wouldn't have mattered if water balloons were used.
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Re: Houston Spygate
[Re: Keystone]
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11/13/19 05:23 PM
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Dan90210 ☮
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Most if not all teams try to steal signs .During my high school playing days in the year 1812 lol..
Our third base coach when he could see the catcher's signs #1 fastball #2 curve ball, when a fastball was coming he would call you by your first name..Example, let's go Mickey watch it over now.first name meaning fast ball on the way...#2 Let's go Mantle watch it over you can do it..curveball coming,also other verbiage Pick you out one..1 fastball coming, also coming too you now be ready..two..curve ball coming,nothing new been going on a long time. Coaches and/or players stealing signs is one thing stealing them electronically as described is completely different. True however back in those days we didn't have electronics,but if we did I'm sure they would have been used..Sad when a team is great some will try anything to disrupt them, kinna like the New England Patriots inflated football it wouldn't have mattered if water balloons were used. Dodgers pitching coaches were sure the pitchers were tipping their pitches... how else could Houston have been so often sitting on pitches like they knew it was coming? Time and time again? Guess now we know. I am sure they will pay some fines and things will move on...but nice that they cheated to get their one ever title. Very nice.
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Re: Houston Spygate
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11/13/19 06:20 PM
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Curious to see where this goes in the coming weeks.... if it can be proven I think MLB will come down on them pretty hard.
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Re: Houston Spygate
[Re: buda13]
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11/13/19 06:54 PM
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Curious to see where this goes in the coming weeks.... if it can be proven I think MLB will come down on them pretty hard. I am too. I’m most curious about a punishment and who is punished. Surely, front office will be punished, as well as players and coaches. I mean, how would the players get a camera feed from centerfield to a monitor in the dugout without the manager, coaches, GM and everyone else on the team not knowing?
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Re: Houston Spygate
[Re: Duck_Hunter]
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11/13/19 07:15 PM
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Keystone
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Curious to see where this goes in the coming weeks.... if it can be proven I think MLB will come down on them pretty hard. I am too. I’m most curious about a punishment and who is punished. Surely, front office will be punished, as well as players and coaches. I mean, how would the players get a camera feed from centerfield to a monitor in the dugout without the manager, coaches, GM and everyone else on the team not knowing? Could it be Nolan Ryan knew this was coming and got out?
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Re: Houston Spygate
[Re: Keystone]
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11/13/19 07:24 PM
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Duck_Hunter
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Curious to see where this goes in the coming weeks.... if it can be proven I think MLB will come down on them pretty hard. I am too. I’m most curious about a punishment and who is punished. Surely, front office will be punished, as well as players and coaches. I mean, how would the players get a camera feed from centerfield to a monitor in the dugout without the manager, coaches, GM and everyone else on the team not knowing? Could it be Nolan Ryan knew this was coming and got out? Maybe...that would be interesting.
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Re: Houston Spygate
[Re: junbengreat]
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11/13/19 07:38 PM
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Cheating and stealing at Enron Field. Shocking.
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Re: Houston Spygate
[Re: Dan90210 ☮]
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11/13/19 07:58 PM
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also nice that they cheated to get their one ever title. Very nice. Exactly. Scumbags.
You are not a good or nice person.
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Re: Houston Spygate
[Re: junbengreat]
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11/13/19 08:09 PM
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The people who are saying this kind of cheating is “no big deal” are the same people who want a Congressional investigation when their little Johnny plays in a jr high football game and there’s a hint of an opposing player being illegally recruited
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Re: Houston Spygate
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11/13/19 09:53 PM
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People who like baseball. Who comments on a thread of no interest to them? You.
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Re: Houston Spygate
[Re: Duck_Hunter]
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11/13/19 10:00 PM
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Smurfs
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People who like baseball. Who comments on a thread of no interest to them? You. 
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Re: Houston Spygate
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11/14/19 12:44 AM
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People who like baseball. Who comments on a thread of no interest to them? You. You can bite me sir! I have interest, just very little...
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Re: Houston Spygate
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11/14/19 12:58 AM
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The people who are saying this kind of cheating is “no big deal” are the same people who want a Congressional investigation when their little Johnny plays in a jr high football game and there’s a hint of an opposing player being illegally recruited Cheating is cheating. The method here is being overblown. There is an easy fix - multiple signs. If the coaching staff is too lazy to not mix up signs even when there is nobody on base then the responsibility is with them. If you are naive enough to think this is isolated to the Astros then Merry Christmas as Santa comes down your chimney.
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