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Re: Houston Spygate [Re: junbengreat] #13340586 11/13/19 03:14 AM
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If true what a [censored] move by the Astros. Did they not think at some point a player would be traded on bad terms and then come out with this?

Re: Houston Spygate [Re: junbengreat] #13340614 11/13/19 03:50 AM
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So they were cheating and still lost? roflmao


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Re: Houston Spygate [Re: Duck_Hunter] #13340625 11/13/19 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Duck_Hunter
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How are they stealing signs? I couldn’t get the link to load. But teams stealing signs has been around forever and I don’t look at it as cheating but good observation. Just like poker players looking for telltales.


Via a camera in center and a video monitor in the dugout, then they relay the sign to the batter, sometimes via whistling, sometimes by banging on a trash can, according to the video I mentioned.

Stealing signs the old fashioned way is fine. Stealing them electronically is clearly against the rules.





And it really helped the Astros a lot! Go figure. nuts


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Re: Houston Spygate [Re: junbengreat] #13340627 11/13/19 04:05 AM
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So is the ex Astro who brought these accusations out supposed to be reformed? He was fine with It when it was his team cheating. It would be in his best interest to not bat against Houston next season.


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Re: Houston Spygate [Re: junbengreat] #13340633 11/13/19 04:11 AM
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i thought Hinch was a class guy, appears to no be so..

Re: Houston Spygate [Re: Bass Bug] #13340636 11/13/19 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Bass Bug
i thought Hinch was a class guy, appears to no be so..





I was thinking the same! hmmm


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Re: Houston Spygate [Re: outfishdya] #13340641 11/13/19 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by outfishdya
So is the ex Astro who brought these accusations out supposed to be reformed? He was fine with It when it was his team cheating. It would be in his best interest to not bat against Houston next season.

I think he’s a pitcher so that’s not a worry. Also probably why he’s against it in the first place.

Re: Houston Spygate [Re: H.Town_paddler] #13340651 11/13/19 04:53 AM
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So is the ex Astro who brought these accusations out supposed to be reformed? He was fine with It when it was his team cheating. It would be in his best interest to not bat against Houston next season.

I think he’s a pitcher so that’s not a worry. Also probably why he’s against it in the first place.


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Re: Houston Spygate [Re: Duck_Hunter] #13340659 11/13/19 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Duck_Hunter
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So is the ex Astro who brought these accusations out supposed to be reformed? He was fine with It when it was his team cheating. It would be in his best interest to not bat against Houston next season.

I think he’s a pitcher so that’s not a worry. Also probably why he’s against it in the first place.


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Re: Houston Spygate [Re: junbengreat] #13340660 11/13/19 07:06 AM
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Bottom line as player thru college if teams pick up signs or pitcher is tipping then it’s their fault. If they are using tech and cameras to steal signs then if I was coach there would be lots of high and in’s and likely several hit batters! Figuring signs out or catching tells from pitchers is part of game but tech to gain advantage is bs!!


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Re: Houston Spygate [Re: Duck_Hunter] #13340665 11/13/19 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Duck_Hunter
Originally Posted by BrandoA
How are they stealing signs? I couldn’t get the link to load. But teams stealing signs has been around forever and I don’t look at it as cheating but good observation. Just like poker players looking for telltales.


Via a camera in center and a video monitor in the dugout, then they relay the sign to the batter, sometimes via whistling, sometimes by banging on a trash can, according to the video I mentioned.

Stealing signs the old fashioned way is fine. Stealing them electronically is clearly against the rules.


Pretty good assessment especially the last statement.

Re: Houston Spygate [Re: junbengreat] #13340725 11/13/19 01:13 PM
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And see the Dodger pitching staff in 2017 thought the PITCHERS, Darvish and Kershaw especially, were tipping their pitches since it looked like the hitters knew what was coming so often.

Houston staying classy as always. This news does not surprise me.

Re: Houston Spygate [Re: junbengreat] #13340732 11/13/19 01:21 PM
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Nothing new. They were just ratted out. Another iteration of analytics in a game that is overanalyzed as it is.,,and I love baseball.

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Re: Houston Spygate [Re: junbengreat] #13340751 11/13/19 01:41 PM
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Re: Houston Spygate [Re: junbengreat] #13340919 11/13/19 04:03 PM
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Most if not all teams try to steal signs .During my high school playing days in the year 1812 lol..
Our third base coach when he could see the catcher's signs #1 fastball #2 curve ball, when a fastball was coming he would call you by your first name..Example, let's go Mickey watch it over now.first name meaning fast ball on the way...#2 Let's go Mantle watch it over you can do it..curveball coming,also other verbiage Pick you out one..1 fastball coming, also coming too you now be ready..two..curve ball coming,nothing new been going on a long time.

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