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Re: Houston Spygate
[Re: junbengreat]
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11/13/19 03:14 AM
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H.Town_paddler
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If true what a [censored] move by the Astros. Did they not think at some point a player would be traded on bad terms and then come out with this?
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Re: Houston Spygate
[Re: junbengreat]
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11/13/19 03:50 AM
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So they were cheating and still lost?
This thread needs more cowbell ...
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Re: Houston Spygate
[Re: Duck_Hunter]
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11/13/19 04:02 AM
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banker-always fishing
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How are they stealing signs? I couldn’t get the link to load. But teams stealing signs has been around forever and I don’t look at it as cheating but good observation. Just like poker players looking for telltales. Via a camera in center and a video monitor in the dugout, then they relay the sign to the batter, sometimes via whistling, sometimes by banging on a trash can, according to the video I mentioned. Stealing signs the old fashioned way is fine. Stealing them electronically is clearly against the rules. And it really helped the Astros a lot! Go figure.
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Re: Houston Spygate
[Re: junbengreat]
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11/13/19 04:05 AM
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outfishdya
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So is the ex Astro who brought these accusations out supposed to be reformed? He was fine with It when it was his team cheating. It would be in his best interest to not bat against Houston next season.
Woke up this morning Got yourself a gun....
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Re: Houston Spygate
[Re: junbengreat]
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11/13/19 04:11 AM
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i thought Hinch was a class guy, appears to no be so..
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Re: Houston Spygate
[Re: Bass Bug]
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11/13/19 04:13 AM
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banker-always fishing
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i thought Hinch was a class guy, appears to no be so.. I was thinking the same!
IGFA World Record Rio Grande Cichlid. Lake Dunlap. John 3:16 Sinner's Prayer. God forgive me a sinner. I accept Jesus Christ as my Savior !
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Re: Houston Spygate
[Re: outfishdya]
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11/13/19 04:20 AM
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So is the ex Astro who brought these accusations out supposed to be reformed? He was fine with It when it was his team cheating. It would be in his best interest to not bat against Houston next season. I think he’s a pitcher so that’s not a worry. Also probably why he’s against it in the first place.
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Re: Houston Spygate
[Re: H.Town_paddler]
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11/13/19 04:53 AM
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So is the ex Astro who brought these accusations out supposed to be reformed? He was fine with It when it was his team cheating. It would be in his best interest to not bat against Houston next season. I think he’s a pitcher so that’s not a worry. Also probably why he’s against it in the first place. Yep
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Re: Houston Spygate
[Re: Duck_Hunter]
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11/13/19 06:35 AM
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TxBassSniper
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So is the ex Astro who brought these accusations out supposed to be reformed? He was fine with It when it was his team cheating. It would be in his best interest to not bat against Houston next season. I think he’s a pitcher so that’s not a worry. Also probably why he’s against it in the first place. Yep They hit better on the road than at home, where the cheating was supposedly going on. Nothing Burger! Go Stros!!!
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Re: Houston Spygate
[Re: junbengreat]
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11/13/19 07:06 AM
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Team Skeeterless
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Bottom line as player thru college if teams pick up signs or pitcher is tipping then it’s their fault. If they are using tech and cameras to steal signs then if I was coach there would be lots of high and in’s and likely several hit batters! Figuring signs out or catching tells from pitchers is part of game but tech to gain advantage is bs!!
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Re: Houston Spygate
[Re: Duck_Hunter]
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11/13/19 10:51 AM
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How are they stealing signs? I couldn’t get the link to load. But teams stealing signs has been around forever and I don’t look at it as cheating but good observation. Just like poker players looking for telltales. Via a camera in center and a video monitor in the dugout, then they relay the sign to the batter, sometimes via whistling, sometimes by banging on a trash can, according to the video I mentioned. Stealing signs the old fashioned way is fine. Stealing them electronically is clearly against the rules. Pretty good assessment especially the last statement.
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Re: Houston Spygate
[Re: junbengreat]
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11/13/19 01:13 PM
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Dan90210 ☮
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And see the Dodger pitching staff in 2017 thought the PITCHERS, Darvish and Kershaw especially, were tipping their pitches since it looked like the hitters knew what was coming so often.
Houston staying classy as always. This news does not surprise me.
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Re: Houston Spygate
[Re: junbengreat]
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11/13/19 01:21 PM
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Nothing new. They were just ratted out. Another iteration of analytics in a game that is overanalyzed as it is.,,and I love baseball.
Last edited by H2O Seeker; 11/13/19 01:43 PM.
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Re: Houston Spygate
[Re: junbengreat]
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11/13/19 01:41 PM
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Cowboys could use some of that moxie.
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Re: Houston Spygate
[Re: junbengreat]
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11/13/19 04:03 PM
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Most if not all teams try to steal signs .During my high school playing days in the year 1812 lol.. Our third base coach when he could see the catcher's signs #1 fastball #2 curve ball, when a fastball was coming he would call you by your first name..Example, let's go Mickey watch it over now.first name meaning fast ball on the way...#2 Let's go Mantle watch it over you can do it..curveball coming,also other verbiage Pick you out one..1 fastball coming, also coming too you now be ready..two..curve ball coming,nothing new been going on a long time.
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