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Re: John 15:6 question [Re: Keystone] #13336161 11/08/19 08:46 PM
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Darwins book is a contradictory book to the Holy Bible . Don’t believe it and dont waste your money !!


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Re: John 14::6 question [Re: butch sanders] #13336165 11/08/19 08:51 PM
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[quote=Keystone]Jesus said no one gets to the father except thru me....so the way I understand it Jesus is saying the only way to heaven is thru him....my question What about the time before the birth of Jesus .How did people get to heaven ?


According to Christianity... Jeffrey Dahmer is in heaven and Anne Frank is in hell. That's all you need to know.


ridiculous

Why is that ridiculous?


you don't know what God does
why would he send Anne Frank to he77 ?


Because she was Jewish and the Jewish faith does not recognize the divinity of Jesus.

Are you suggesting belief and acceptance of Jesus and the resurrection are not required to go to heaven? Isn't the entire religion centered around that belief? Will you please explain what IS required to go to heaven? And what does it mean to be a Christian in your mind?

There's only 2 options right? Heaven or Hell? If Anne Frank is not in heaven because she did not accept Jesus as her lord and savior, then she's in hell right? (I don't think's she's in either)

I'm an atheist, if I were to die right now would I go to heaven or hell? Jefferey Dahmer was baptized and converted to Christianity in prison; assuming he was sincere, is he in heaven?


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so to be clear, you want someone here to be an apologist for God? to presume to know the will of God?


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Re: John 14::6 question [Re: spazm09] #13336168 11/08/19 09:04 PM
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Because she was Jewish and the Jewish faith does not recognize the divinity of Jesus.

Are you suggesting belief and acceptance of Jesus and the resurrection are not required to go to heaven? Isn't the entire religion centered around that belief? Will you please explain what IS required to go to heaven? And what does it mean to be a Christian in your mind?

There's only 2 options right? Heaven or Hell? If Anne Frank is not in heaven because she did not accept Jesus as her lord and savior, then she's in hell right? (I don't think's she's in either)

I'm an atheist, if I were to die right now would I go to heaven or hell? Jefferey Dahmer was baptized and converted to Christianity in prison; assuming he was sincere, is he in heaven?
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Dahmer might well be.
One of the thieves on the cross accepted Jesus just before death. Jesus said 'today you'll be in heaven with me'. So he gives you a chance to the last minute to trust in his death. How cool is that? But don't wait, no man know the day and time of his last breath to accept this free gift, today may be your last! ;/0


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Re: John 14::6 question [Re: otay michael] #13336170 11/08/19 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by otay michael


Because she was Jewish and the Jewish faith does not recognize the divinity of Jesus.

Are you suggesting belief and acceptance of Jesus and the resurrection are not required to go to heaven? Isn't the entire religion centered around that belief? Will you please explain what IS required to go to heaven? And what does it mean to be a Christian in your mind?

There's only 2 options right? Heaven or Hell? If Anne Frank is not in heaven because she did not accept Jesus as her lord and savior, then she's in hell right? (I don't think's she's in either)

I'm an atheist, if I were to die right now would I go to heaven or hell? Jefferey Dahmer was baptized and converted to Christianity in prison; assuming he was sincere, is he in heaven?


Dahmer might well be.
One of the thieves on the cross accepted Jesus just before death. Jesus said 'today you'll be in heaven with me'. So he gives you a chance to the last minute to trust in his death. How cool is that? But don't wait, no man know the day and time of his last breath to accept this free gift, today may be your last! ;/0
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Right so Dahmer is in heaven... how about Anne Frank?


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Re: John 14::6 question [Re: otay michael] #13336179 11/08/19 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by otay michael


Dahmer might well be.
One of the thieves on the cross accepted Jesus just before death. Jesus said 'today you'll be in heaven with me'. So he gives you a chance to the last minute to trust in his death. How cool is that? But don't wait, no man know the day and time of his last breath to accept this free gift, today may be your last! ;/0



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so to be clear, you want someone here to be an apologist for God? to presume to know the will of God?


Wouldn't mind acknowledgement of everything that comes with the faith.

How about you Bob? Is Anne Frank in heaven? Hell? Neither? I don't expect you to know the will of god; I just want your opinion.

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According to Christianity... Jeffrey Dahmer is in heaven and Anne Frank is in hell. That's all you need to know.[/quote]

ridiculous

Why is that ridiculous?[/quote]

you don't know what God does
why would he send Anne Frank to he77 ? [/quote]

Because she was Jewish and the Jewish faith does not recognize the divinity of Jesus.

Are you suggesting belief and acceptance of Jesus and the resurrection are not required to go to heaven? Isn't the entire religion centered around that belief? Will you please explain what IS required to go to heaven? And what does it mean to be a Christian in your mind?

There's only 2 options right? Heaven or Hell? If Anne Frank is not in heaven because she did not accept Jesus as her lord and savior, then she's in hell right? (I don't think's she's in either)

I'm an atheist, if I were to die right now would I go to heaven or hell? Jefferey Dahmer was baptized and converted to Christianity in prison; assuming he was sincere, is he in heaven?
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since you don't follow Christ, you will not understand how he works.
I hope when you die, & see the truth, you will have the opportunity to change your mind.

Re: John 14::6 question [Re: Bigbob_FTW] #13336203 11/08/19 09:52 PM
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so to be clear, you want someone here to be an apologist for God? to presume to know the will of God?


yep
wacked out

Re: John 14::6 question [Re: spazm09] #13336215 11/08/19 10:06 PM
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so to be clear, you want someone here to be an apologist for God? to presume to know the will of God?


Wouldn't mind acknowledgement of everything that comes with the faith.

How about you Bob? Is Anne Frank in heaven? Hell? Neither? I don't expect you to know the will of god; I just want your opinion.



No idea. Seriously. I don't know her heart and my judgment is clouded by sin. Don't get the Anne Frank thing, i live with an agnostic and a son who has limited understanding of it. Same thing.

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If any of you actually read the dairy of Anne Frank you may be surprised that her father asked for a children's Bible so "I (Anne) could finally learn something about the new testament". This doesn't mean she is saved but certainly means she was open to other views of religion. No one knows the thoughts of man except God. It is a rhetorical question anyways so Matthew 7:6 would apply here.

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Originally Posted by Alumacraft 14
If any of you actually read the dairy of Anne Frank you may be surprised that her father asked for a children's Bible so "I (Anne) could finally learn something about the new testament". This doesn't mean she is saved but certainly means she was open to other views of religion. No one knows the thoughts of man except God. It is a rhetorical question anyways so Matthew 7:6 would apply here.



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Re: John 14::6 question [Re: Keystone] #13336284 11/08/19 11:59 PM
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Didn't realize there are so many theologians here on TFF. smile There has only been one response that made any biblical sense out of the 4 pages ROFL

Re: John 15:6 question [Re: RayBob] #13336286 11/09/19 12:03 AM
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Pre Tribulation Fasle Doctrine- Doctrine of the Devil!


explanation pls



Ill explain. Because that particular doctrine is from the 1800s, Margrett Mcdonald comes to mind, a short time later John Darby and C.I. Scofield come along with there "new" bibles after her prophesies. Lastly, all biblical prophecy ended around 70 AD , its a mute point for today other than causing Chritians and Non Christians to argue .

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For those who believe Revelation is speaking about future events, you would do well to read the Prologue. The writer of the book of Revelation was clear and precise as too "when" the events of the book or Revelation were to occur. No matter what you or I think the symbolism, apocalyptic language, metaphors ect mean the author of the letter clearly said "when" it would happen.

1 The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, 2 who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. 3 Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near.

Google the greek words for "soon" and "near". its no secret what they meant in the first century and is why our translators used the English words in our bible.

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