I have a question about this. On their website it says "If the refund or credit is claimed on fuel purchased at retail, the purchase invoice must note the identification of each vehicle or type of off-highway equipment in which the gasoline was delivered to". To me that sounds like the typical receipt that comes out of the pump won't suffice, how do you get that receipt or can you hand write what it's for on the receipt?

I'm assuming you're in Montgomery County as I am. Our lot value tripled in value. We are a new build so I can't say on the house value, but our 10k foot lot tripled in value in Walden

Okay I get it, nobody wants to pay taxes. One group shouldn't foot the bill for others...but how do you pay for services? If you drop one, you have to increase another to cover expenses to offer services. Don't want to pay gas taxes? Fine, don't gripe about roads. Don't want to pay city taxes? I get it, but don't complain about roads, sewer, water, trash, police, or fire services. Don't want to pay school taxes? No worries, move to a state that has lower property taxes...but guess what, they'll have an income tax, sales tax, auto tax, etc...

Ever spent a few days at public schools? From your comment it sounds as though you haven't.
Who do you think paid for public schools when you had kids attending? Parents only? Doubtful, taxpayers that didn't have kids in school deferred the cost to you the parent b/c everyone contributed. Most likely there were parents, as there are now, paying school taxes and daycare. Do you have grandkids in school? How much do you think it would cost your kids if only parents paid? If only parents paid,that would be called tuition. Federal law requires every state to provide a free public education. How would you propose that is paid for?

Consider this when paying local taxes...a large portion of local taxes stay local, which means you have a greater voice in how it is spent. When you send tax money to the state capital or DC, nobody cares what you think. Further away you send your money the less control you have, and the more hands take a share.

Did your tax rates go up or your value? My taxes went up, but tax rates went down due to increased values...so I sold and made $175K



Do you realize that neither the school nor the city have anything to do with property values? Are you aware that school districts are capped by the state as to how much their tax rate can be? Did you know that as the values of local property taxes goes up, and the school district generates additional revenue, the state reduces penny for penny that same amount of state funding provided?

Bingo!!! This is how you avoid state income tax and property taxes. Full time RV and visit the BASS top 100 staying at state or national parks.

This is probably the best argument against property taxes. If you pay off your house and don't pay your taxes you lose your house. With taxes, its pick your poison. For me personally, I need the tax deduction of paying taxes, when I retire, I won't need that deduction, so will look to Full time RV for a while, then buy a place in a low property tax state since my income tax liability will be lower.

Expenditures are X
Revenues have to = X
Therefore it will = X somehow, so the shell game begins.

Yep.

I would suggest a study of economics. The most regressive tax is sales tax.
No tax is fair but taxing wealth comes closer than any other tax.
There are countries with no tax but I bet not one person in Texas has ever moved to one of the no tax countries.

Yes Apartment renters and house renters pay property tax. The owners of the property get taxed on the property and they in turn add that into the monthly rent that they charge the tenants. Basically they have a middle man between them and the tax collector. Difference is that a homeowner gets to deduct their property taxes on their Federal income tax and apartment renters or house renters for that matter do not get to.

Flat tax = the same as Gods law of the tithe from the Bible. Everyone pays the same percentage and then the church lives within its means. Make $10 pay $1, make $100,000 pay $10,000 it is just and fair. Problem is there is half of the country who pay little to no income tax that would then be taxed. The non tax paying people will never vote to pay taxes and govt. will never live within its means though that is what is fair and just. Because of those facts we should vote down any proposed new tax every time. Do not talk yourself into thinking that if we had a State income tax that property taxes would be lowered. Have you ever seen the government give the people back their money? It just won't happen. My wife and I started nearly 30 years ago in the Army literally with nothing and have worked and scratched and scraped until we do Ok her a nurse and me a shop supervisor. We get absolutely drilled in taxes (punished) because we choose to be successful. NO NEW TAXES of any kind I say!!

Not sure how taxing rich folks is the fairest approach? A graduated tax up to a living wage and then flat tax seems the most fair to me.

It's not fair that wealthy folks pay 46% of their "weath" to the federal government.

I'm a flat taxer, and a true one at that. I won't vote to increase, and I won't vote to exclude taxes from a class. Everyone should have the same percentage skin in the game!

How about this one, if you reach 50 and haven't had kids, all the school property taxes are returned to you!

I'm with you. However, I see the value in subsidizing poverty level income via taxes instead of a handout. Folks in poverty will get subsidized one way or another. If they are subsidized via lower tax, then mid and higher-end folks get the same benefit. For example, I would be in favor if the low-end tax is 5% for everyone (say up to $40K), then the mid-range tax is 10% for everyone (up to $100K), then 15% for everyone.

The key is everyone. No deductions and no self-employment tax... everyone pays the same. As pointed out by others, the problem is that much of the country pays no taxes at all. Also, folks with kids get a deduction that others do not. Standardized deductions account for 50% of some folk's income and 5% of other folk's income. Folks who are self-employed pay 7% more than those who have traditional employment. None of these caveats are fair.

Flat tax is fairest. Fair tax is also fair and actually would benefit everyone and make more in revenue, but neither will ever get passed.

That's not going to happen.