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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: txmasterpo]
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10/17/19 08:51 PM
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Duck_Hunter
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I've said three times now, prosecution under the law is fine with me!! But follow the GD law! Bet your [censored] if Guyer case goes to the CCA it's coming back. Just follow the law, it's not supposed to be subjective Thank you, and I know you’ve said it three times. What about this makes you think they aren’t following the law by charging him with murder?
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: 921 Phoenix]
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10/17/19 08:56 PM
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..if you think charging all of them with murder, and making them defend themselves in court is the answer, you are sadly mistaken. so we should quit prosecuting murder cases? no we shouldn't stop prosecuting murder cases. I doubt you could get a murder conviction on a case like the FW case anyway, maybe manslaughter at best. I think it should be investigated same as with anyone else. We shouldn't change it up just because we are worried about a riot tho. I do think media and 24 hour news changes things tho. I wonder how many times a police officer is called out in fort worth along. Then how many times officers have to pull their gun and how many times they actually shoot the gun. You then take the number of times it turns out bad and we still have a good system. I don't think anyone wants a bad outcome on any of this but it does happen with the human factor. I do not think you can stop that with training, maybe slow it down. The climate the officers have to do their job in is bad in this day. I would not be a cop under these circumstances. People try to blame everything on racism. That makes it even worse. A black man can rob a store and then attack a cop and nearly knock his eye out. He gets shot for his decisions and they will try and burn the town down and blame every white person out there. They never blame the black man for his actions of robbing and attacking white people JUST because they are white. They call white people racist. The fort worth deal is bad no matter how you look at it, but it's the results of years of bad action by blacks against white officers. I really do not know how you fix that until black people police their own and make them accountable for their actions so every time they meet a officer, the office doesn't feel his/or her life is in danger. The officer can be any color and he/or she feels they may get shot by the young men and black people. So I'll flip it, how many interactions do police have with black people that go perfectly well, 99.9 percent I'm betting. The police are gonna blame the shooting people on fear of black people when most go fine but want a pass when they shoot someone on fear from the tiny percentage. And the concept of black people need to police their own is unbelievable. There are plenty of white people that could use policeing too.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/17/19 08:59 PM
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txmasterpo
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You will NEVER hear a policeman say he did anything out of fear of any race...bet
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: txmasterpo]
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10/17/19 09:01 PM
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You will NEVER hear a policeman say he did anything out of fear of any race...bet I hope not. I don’t understand what Phoenix was going after there.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/17/19 09:09 PM
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Still believe Manslaughter should be the charge. Same as I did in the Guyger case.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/17/19 09:09 PM
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"Using data from Houston, Texas – where we have both officer-involved shootings and a randomly chosen set of potential interactions with police where lethal force may have been justified – we find, after controlling for suspect demographics, officer demographics, encounter characteristics, suspect weapon and year fixed effects, that blacks are 27.4 percent less likely to be shot at by police relative to non-black, non-Hispanics. This coefficient is measured with considerable error and not statistically significant. This result is remarkably robust across alternative empirical specifications and subsets of the data. Partitioning the data in myriad ways, we find no evidence of racial discrimination in officer involved shootings. Investigating the intensive margin – the timing of shootings or how many bullets were discharged in the endeavor – there are no detectable racial differences"
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/17/19 09:15 PM
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txmasterpo
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remember when I said the "epidemic of violence in american was a lie?"
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/17/19 09:16 PM
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txmasterpo
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please note all of those lines are going down and do you know who is killing all of those black males? I promise it is not the police, it is other black males, like in the 90% range. But racism in america is rampant right? Just watch CNN, they will tell you. I was way underselling the number of arrests earlier....it was 8.2 MILLION in 2017....that is just ARRESTS, not total contacts. How many officers [censored] up and got on the news? 20? 50? Do you see what I am getting at yet?
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/17/19 09:22 PM
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/17/19 09:42 PM
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So the FW cop shot the old white man pointing a gun at them in his garage got no billed and never went to trial. But this cop shot a black woman that was pointing a gun at him and he's a horrible murderer and needs the death penalty.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: txmasterpo]
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10/17/19 09:46 PM
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please note all of those lines are going down and do you know who is killing all of those black males? I promise it is not the police, it is other black males, like in the 90% range. But racism in america is rampant right? Just watch CNN, they will tell you. I was way underselling the number of arrests earlier....it was 8.2 MILLION in 2017....that is just ARRESTS, not total contacts. How many officers [censored] up and got on the news? 20? 50? Do you see what I am getting at yet? I never disagreed with you that there were only a handful of bad shoots per year by law enforcement. I don’t see what you’re getting at or who this is even directed at. Phoenix? WAWI? Me? I’ve seen the data and I agree it’s rare, but I don’t understand what point you’re making or whom you’re making it to.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Chris B]
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10/17/19 09:47 PM
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So the FW cop shot the old white man pointing a gun at them in his garage got no billed and never went to trial. But this cop shot a black woman that was pointing a gun at him and he's a horrible murderer and needs the death penalty. Bingo!
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
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10/17/19 09:51 PM
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Chris B
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So the FW cop shot the old white man pointing a gun at them in his garage got no billed and never went to trial. But this cop shot a black woman that was pointing a gun at him and he's a horrible murderer and needs the death penalty. Bingo! Times have changed since obama turned the public against the police.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Chris B]
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10/17/19 09:53 PM
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So the FW cop shot the old white man pointing a gun at them in his garage got no billed and never went to trial. But this cop shot a black woman that was pointing a gun at him and he's a horrible murderer and needs the death penalty. Bingo! Times have changed since obama turned the public against the police. There is no doubt about that.
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