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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bob Davis]
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10/14/19 02:46 AM
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Uncle Zeek
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I think they are having a hard time filling positions and lowering the bar or something.
I wouldn't be surprised at all. One thing that I remember as a kid was that rookies had to work with an experienced partner for a fairly long time. At least this is what I was always told. Now it seems that relatively inexperienced officers are turned loose much sooner. Of course, I don't work day-in, day-out with police, so my perceptions could be completely wrong.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bob Davis]
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10/14/19 02:49 AM
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Mark Perry
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The Dallas situation was an effed up deal, this is an effed up deal. Could it be the Police Departments are lowering the bar for entry into the Police Force or speeding up the training wrecklessly to fill empty positions. Who in the hell would want to be a Police Officer today with the hatred and disrespect shown to them? You have to have nerves and convictions of steel to be an officer today. God bless anyone that chooses this profession in my book. The deck is stacked against you by the media and the population at large. Nobody is saying dont appreciate the police, respect the police, it's not a hard job etc. The reality is there have been 3 presumably innocent people shot in their own homes by police in the last few years that I can think of off the top of my head, then the poor lady shot while the office was shooting at a dog. The officer firing into the high school kids car, these are in the metroplex alone. Some outrage over the loss of innocent life should be expected No, I didn't say anyone here reading my message disrespects Police, but every news channel and paper talks about Police getting shot, spit on, thrown water on, called pigs etc. I hear ya on the screw ups in these 3 cases you mentioned. I think they are having a hard time filling positions and lowering the bar or something. FW is very competitive in the hiring process. Its a tough task to get a job with them. They turn many away.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: butch sanders]
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10/14/19 11:30 AM
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AmpedUp
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7 shootings since June 1
this guy murdered that woman did not identify his target at all ^^ This^^ World is getting Crazy!! not safe anywhere!!
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/14/19 02:11 PM
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Coach Hark
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It’s been happening for years. We just hear about it now because of video. They’re bad apples in every profession. They’re bad firefighters, bad policeman, bad coaches, bad teachers, bad lawyers, bad Dr.’s ......and so on.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/14/19 02:13 PM
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JIM SR.
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DFW is going to have to get it's own Court Channel.....sad.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/14/19 04:26 PM
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fishslime
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Someone needs to get a grip on these trigger happy cops with different or better training. I know it is a dangerous job with a lot of unknowns, but you can't kill completely innocent people and expect it to be justifiable.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/14/19 04:31 PM
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Jarrett Latta
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Human nature to make mistakes. You'll NEVER fix that part. No matter how thorough the training someone will fck it up eventually. This guy certainly did. Can't imagine why you'd not announce yourself and just shoot a woman through a window
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/14/19 04:33 PM
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I still don't know why someone didn't knock on the front door?
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Mark Perry]
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10/14/19 04:53 PM
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buda13
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FW is very competitive in the hiring process. Its a tough task to get a job with them. They turn many away.
For real? I know it used to be like that, but I've had direct dealings with them on some break ins at our yard and an accident one of my trucks was in recently. Its been some keystone cops type of stuff man. Had to explain to the officer writing up the truck accident what a DOT recordable incident is, what a UCR agreement is and how it differs from the companies actual insurance policy, what class license is required for a tractor trailer... took 28 days for the report to be filed. The break ins to our yard were even worse, took them 3 days and 6 calls from me for them to even respond to do the report. You could clearly see the hole cut in the fence, drag marks, and our material 50 yards on the other side of the fence half covered by a tarp.. they did NOTHING but write a BS report. Wouldn't even let me reclaim my material. Both instances the officers I was dealing with said FTWPD is reaching a critical level of officer shortage without enough recruits int he pipeline to fill the need. Leads me to believe they'll hire darn near anyone right now to get a warm body on the streets... hope I'm wrong but it sure feels that way as of late.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/14/19 05:04 PM
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WAWI
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I still don't know why someone didn't knock on the front door?
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/14/19 05:22 PM
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Fishingking
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Don't make cops or men like they use to.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/14/19 05:48 PM
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Did I hear they found a weapon on the floor where she fell?
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: V-Bottom]
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10/14/19 05:52 PM
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steveiam
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Did I hear they found a weapon on the floor where she fell? They are saying they found a weapon “in the home” is what I heard- Heck, I have several weapons in MY OWN home-
What has happed to you does not define who you are-
HOW you react to what happens to you DOES!
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: steveiam]
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10/14/19 05:56 PM
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WAWI
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Did I hear they found a weapon on the floor where she fell? They are saying they found a weapon “in the home” is what I heard- Heck, I have several weapons in MY OWN home- Not to mention if you are creeping around my back yard at 230 am I might have one of my guns when I come to window
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/14/19 06:07 PM
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Twotoes
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First - officer did not announce himself as police and police car was not parked out front and thereby visible.
Second- from the "Show me your hands" to the gunshot was about one second. Nobody could react in that time. And the officer was outside, doubt if the woman could even see him, maybe couldn't hear him.
Third - if I see flashlights outside my house at 2 am I will absolutely be armed, especially without a police vehicle visible and no announcement of "police officer".
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