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Which bass boat oxygen systems are most dangerous? #13301381 10/04/19 01:05 PM
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Without any knowledge, understanding or training using pure 100% oxygen gas, oxygen-enriched environment and oxygen equipment safety, I suppose any oxygen livewell oxygenation system that delivers 100% O2 gas inside a closed livewell is more dangerous than electric aerators, ambient air, water pumps and gasoline for most bass fishermen.

Today there are so many different types/brands of fishing oxygen systems for livewells sold on the internet now as well as those sold from the bass boat manufacturers as well as saltwater sport fishermen keeping tournament redfish alive in C&R tournaments.

I have heard many bass fishermen and aerator salesmen and livewell salesmen claim that livewell oxygen systems are very dangerousā€¦ RE: oxygen explosions and oxygen fires, too much O2 in livewells kills/poisons the fish. Actually gasoline, hydrogen gas, acetylene and propane is explosive.

Do you think this may be dangerous: A high pressure oxygen tank 2200 psi full of 100% pure oxygen gas in the bilge of a boat with the hatch lid closed?

Bass Cat Boat Tiger Tank O2 System - https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...ejRydVdjRmJwNlNib1U3LTYzZW5GR1JaemR2RWlB

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Re: Which bass boat oxygen systems are most dangerous? [Re: Jack46] #13301413 10/04/19 01:32 PM
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It's not dangerous unless you're an idiot and make it dangerous. It's a safe system that anyone can build themselves

Re: Which bass boat oxygen systems are most dangerous? [Re: Jack46] #13301422 10/04/19 01:46 PM
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It's only dangerous if you knock the valve off. If it's in an enclosed spot, it won't go anywhere, absolutely will not blow up. Now, if you have it an area where gas fumes can get in, all it takes is a spark and you will never know what hit you!! eeks


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Re: Which bass boat oxygen systems are most dangerous? [Re: Jarrett Latta] #13301448 10/04/19 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jarrett Latta
It's not dangerous unless you're an idiot and make it dangerous. It's a safe system that anyone can build themselves


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Disappointing to realize that some how people have been made to be afraid of oxygen

Re: Which bass boat oxygen systems are most dangerous? [Re: Jack46] #13301456 10/04/19 02:11 PM
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Frank the Tank will be along shortly to plug the V2 vent system.

Can we just leave this topic alone for a few weeks? It has been beat to death. de


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Re: Which bass boat oxygen systems are most dangerous? [Re: Fishinfellow] #13301464 10/04/19 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishinfellow
Frank the Tank will be along shortly to plug the V2 vent system.

Can we just leave this topic alone for a few weeks? It has been beat to death. de


BTW, it's V-T2 vent systems and they work. Why knock something that you haven't tested out?

I was skeptical at first as well, then I put them on my Nitro and have never seen my fish more alive and spunky after spending hours in the livewell in 80*+ heat.

They are cheaper and less risk to the [censored] end of your boat being ripped off. scared

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Re: Which bass boat oxygen systems are most dangerous? [Re: Neal G] #13301623 10/04/19 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Neal G
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It's not dangerous unless you're an idiot and make it dangerous. It's a safe system that anyone can build themselves


flehan

Disappointing to realize that some how people have been made to be afraid of oxygen


Oxygen is an oxidizer, it supports combustion. Being in EMS, I can tell you we're careful with the tanks. We even remove oxygen from the area to defibrillate someone.

Not saying to be afraid, just realize there is potential for danger under certain circumstances.

Re: Which bass boat oxygen systems are most dangerous? [Re: Jack46] #13301660 10/04/19 05:21 PM
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It could go boom, I would use as small a tank as possible and secure it exceptionally well, I know there has been talk about the coast guard making these O2 systems illegal to use because of the fire hazard.

Re: Which bass boat oxygen systems are most dangerous? [Re: Jack46] #13301673 10/04/19 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack46
Without any knowledge, understanding or training using pure 100% oxygen gas, oxygen-enriched environment and oxygen equipment safety, I suppose any oxygen livewell oxygenation system that delivers 100% O2 gas inside a closed livewell is more dangerous than electric aerators, ambient air, water pumps and gasoline for most bass fishermen.

Today there are so many different types/brands of fishing oxygen systems for livewells sold on the internet now as well as those sold from the bass boat manufacturers as well as saltwater sport fishermen keeping tournament redfish alive in C&R tournaments.

I have heard many bass fishermen and aerator salesmen and livewell salesmen claim that livewell oxygen systems are very dangerousā€¦ RE: oxygen explosions and oxygen fires, too much O2 in livewells kills/poisons the fish. Actually gasoline, hydrogen gas, acetylene and propane is explosive.

Do you think this may be dangerous: A high pressure oxygen tank 2200 psi full of 100% pure oxygen gas in the bilge of a boat with the hatch lid closed?

Bass Cat Boat Tiger Tank O2 System - https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...ejRydVdjRmJwNlNib1U3LTYzZW5GR1JaemR2RWlB

The oxygen system does not create a fire hazard. The fire hazards in your boat are there regardless of whether you have an oxygen system or not. Think of it this way, oxygen doesn't make the fire, it makes the fire better.

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Originally Posted by SAKS
Originally Posted by Jack46
Without any knowledge, understanding or training using pure 100% oxygen gas, oxygen-enriched environment and oxygen equipment safety, I suppose any oxygen livewell oxygenation system that delivers 100% O2 gas inside a closed livewell is more dangerous than electric aerators, ambient air, water pumps and gasoline for most bass fishermen.

Today there are so many different types/brands of fishing oxygen systems for livewells sold on the internet now as well as those sold from the bass boat manufacturers as well as saltwater sport fishermen keeping tournament redfish alive in C&R tournaments.

I have heard many bass fishermen and aerator salesmen and livewell salesmen claim that livewell oxygen systems are very dangerousā€¦ RE: oxygen explosions and oxygen fires, too much O2 in livewells kills/poisons the fish. Actually gasoline, hydrogen gas, acetylene and propane is explosive.

Do you think this may be dangerous: A high pressure oxygen tank 2200 psi full of 100% pure oxygen gas in the bilge of a boat with the hatch lid closed?

Bass Cat Boat Tiger Tank O2 System - https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...ejRydVdjRmJwNlNib1U3LTYzZW5GR1JaemR2RWlB

The oxygen system does not create a fire hazard. The fire hazards in your boat are there regardless of whether you have an oxygen system or not. Think of it this way, oxygen doesn't make the fire, it makes the fire better.


This...^^

I have yet to hear of 1 oxygen system fire. Even Todd Driscoll at tpw uses one and has for a long time. He fishes a lot of tournaments. You're more likely to burn your boat down with lithium batteries than to have a pure oxygen system issue. And they are super simple. Just take them out after events if you're concerned.

Re: Which bass boat oxygen systems are most dangerous? [Re: Jack46] #13302298 10/05/19 02:29 PM
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With all the people scooting around Winstar Casino on oxygen while smoking and people still believe O2 is flammable. Funny. Oxygen is a necessary component for supporting combustion. Flammable itself? No. Explosive because itā€™s a pressurized cylinder? Yes.....but so is your fire extinguisher.

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Re: Which bass boat oxygen systems are most dangerous? [Re: Jarrett Latta] #13302304 10/05/19 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jarrett Latta
It's not dangerous unless you're an idiot and make it dangerous.
J, I believe are exactly right here, ā€œIt's not dangerous unless you're an idiot and make it dangerous.ā€

Of course, children and idiots can buy an O2 tank, O2 regulator, plastic air tubing and soaker hose on E-bay for $75 and make a very cheap homemade O2 system. You can bet there are in a few in bass boats on the lake.

These children on U-tube are a fine example: Best Livewell Oxygen System - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgI2ERfSkMs

This U-tube show looks about as dangerous as the BCB Tiger Tank O2 system. The child mentions nothing about pure O2 gas hazards in bass boats, next to oil, batteries and live electric wires and switches in a boat bilge with his homemade O2 system.

I like simplicity how you compare pure oxygen, oxygen enrichment safety to lithium battery explosions and fires, thatā€™s a great comparison and easy to understand. An pure oxygen fire or battery explosion and fire on a boat is no big deal if you have the right kind of fire extinguisher, know how to use it, donā€™t panic and act quickly.

I remember taking a welding shop class in HS. We were taught all kinds of special safety rules about using pure welding oxygen, oxygen regulators and O2 hose including high pressure oxygen tanks and we had to know and actually practice all those O2 safety rules. We had to learn these rules before we lit-up the welding torch for some odd reason. Learning these silly little safety rules was a big deal back then. Actually I still remember many of those safety rules, those rules stuck for some odd reason.

No disrespect J, but after reading what you have posted, it clear to me that you have had no actual training and you are not even aware about special rules about pure 100% O2 gas safety and O2 tank safety on land or any kind of boat?

Again no disrespect to anyone including J, but after seeing some of these opinions and this U-tube show, it appears O2 safety safety rules do not exist at all with these children that are promoting buying pure O2 equipment and building these simple homemade O2 systems in the garage without any responsible adult supervision that I can see. The appearance of simplicity and lack of O2 gas and O2 tank safety in boat bilges is very obvious, very deceptive and frankly irresponsible IMHO.

I will look for more U-tube shows on this topic later to see what others are promoting and selling to bass fishermen about pure O2 safety, oxygen enriched atmospheres, live electricity, oil contamination, O2 gas tubing leaks at O2 tubing connections in boat bilges on boats.

About those potential O2 gas leaks with tubing in boat bilges ...more O2 tubing splices creates more chances of O2 gas leaks... pure oxygen is heavier that ambient air even inside the boat bilge and boat lockers with closed lids, pure O2 gas will concentrate at the bottom of the bilge which is often oily too. Pure oxygen accumulates and concentrates in the lowest part of the bilge should an O2 tube spring a leak at any connection at any time and that little gas leak fill the bilge with pure 100% oxygen gas without you being aware of this accident. Just another O2 safety matter to consider about building a simple homemade O2 system just in case you did not already know that.

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I did stay at a holiday inn express last night so there's that...

Re: Which bass boat oxygen systems are most dangerous? [Re: Jack46] #13302390 10/05/19 05:34 PM
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Ive fished in some weird green water a few times in Iowa and could see all the bubbles my th marine oxygenators put out in my livewell all day.

Its not pure oxygen but if I hadnt seen it I wouldnt believe it.


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