texasfishingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
OlePhart11, Rick P, Raphie, mills_fishes_anywhere, KoreanFishMonger69
119196 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
TexDawg 119,870
Bigbob_FTW 95,492
John175☮ 85,934
Pilothawk 83,279
Bob Davis 82,700
Mark Perry 72,525
Derek 🐝 68,322
JDavis7873 67,416
Forum Statistics
Forums59
Topics1,039,225
Posts13,961,204
Members144,196
Most Online39,925
Dec 30th, 2023
Print Thread
Page 7 of 18 1 2 5 6 7 8 9 17 18
Re: Health Insurance [Re: fishslime] #13281675 09/15/19 06:04 PM
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 82,700
B
Bob Davis Online Content
Bunkeroid Bob
Online Content
Bunkeroid Bob
B
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 82,700
Originally Posted by fishslime


I take this to mean that all who work very hard to make a living and simply can't afford health insurance that has anything but catastrophic coverage in the plan are low IQ (Where have we heard this before?) This response certainly has no noble quality to it. Those who like their insurance, can afford the premium, and want to keep it should be able to do so. However, there needs to be a public option for two reasons. It will be less costly for those who can't afford private plans, and it will serve to keep the insurance companies somewhat honest if they get their fees out of line with the public offering. Some will say this is socialized medicine. We already have socialized medicine. The insurance companies are the socialists. They set the fees that all doctors, hospitals, and medical services get paid. Everyone knows that. We are a better country than one who only thinks that those with the ample resources should have effective health care.


So you mean that if I like my Doctor I can keep my Doctor and if I like my health plan I can keep my Health Plan? Sounds familiar. Obamacare crashed and burned terribly. The hidden mandate required forcing everyone to jump onto "Govt. Healthcare". Well, the majority did not care for ineffective medical care provided by Gov. HMOs. So, they opted to pay the fine instead. Don't blame Conservatives for that. Also, I did not say that only those with ample resources should have health care. Bona fide disabilities excepted, understanably. "We are better than that" is a trite and hackneyed phrase thrown around by the left. It means, we should tax those who choose to work and better themselves and society as a reward for their efforts and distribute it to those parasites who would rather smoke crack and watch TV.


[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]



Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
Re: Health Insurance [Re: Bob Davis] #13281759 09/15/19 06:51 PM
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,190
F
fishslime Offline
TFF Celebrity
Offline
TFF Celebrity
F
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,190
Originally Posted by Bob Davis
Originally Posted by fishslime


I take this to mean that all who work very hard to make a living and simply can't afford health insurance that has anything but catastrophic coverage in the plan are low IQ (Where have we heard this before?) This response certainly has no noble quality to it. Those who like their insurance, can afford the premium, and want to keep it should be able to do so. However, there needs to be a public option for two reasons. It will be less costly for those who can't afford private plans, and it will serve to keep the insurance companies somewhat honest if they get their fees out of line with the public offering. Some will say this is socialized medicine. We already have socialized medicine. The insurance companies are the socialists. They set the fees that all doctors, hospitals, and medical services get paid. Everyone knows that. We are a better country than one who only thinks that those with the ample resources should have effective health care.


So you mean that if I like my Doctor I can keep my Doctor and if I like my health plan I can keep my Health Plan? Sounds familiar. Obamacare crashed and burned terribly. The hidden mandate required forcing everyone to jump onto "Govt. Healthcare". Well, the majority did not care for ineffective medical care provided by Gov. HMOs. So, they opted to pay the fine instead. Don't blame Conservatives for that. Also, I did not say that only those with ample resources should have health care. Bona fide disabilities excepted, understanably. "We are better than that" is a trite and hackneyed phrase thrown around by the left. It means, we should tax those who choose to work and better themselves and society as a reward for their efforts and distribute it to those parasites who would rather smoke crack and watch TV.

We are better than that. Citizens of industrialized countries have some type of universal coverage, and there is no reason that we should not be able to do that here. If they pay for it, we can too. The public wanted it when Obama was elected, and he caved on the public option according to the GOP's wishes, which turned it all back over to the insurance companies to rule. That's where we remain today. The general public wants healthcare reform, or it wouldn't be an issue. It's not the crackhead, couch potato that's the problem. Rather it is the working public who often work for themselves and simply can't afford high insurance premiums. Again, we are better than that.

Re: Health Insurance [Re: fishslime] #13281766 09/15/19 07:01 PM
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 15,243
S
Sawhorse Online Content
TFF Guru
Online Content
TFF Guru
S
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 15,243
Originally Posted by fishslime
We are better than that. Citizens of industrialized countries have some type of universal coverage, and there is no reason that we should not be able to do that here. If they pay for it, we can too. The public wanted it when Obama was elected, and he caved on the public option according to the GOP's wishes, which turned it all back over to the insurance companies to rule. That's where we remain today. The general public wants healthcare reform, or it wouldn't be an issue. It's not the crackhead, couch potato that's the problem. Rather it is the working public who often work for themselves and simply can't afford high insurance premiums. Again, we are better than that.

I’m open to ideas. What do you propose? Who is (and isn’t) covered? How does it work? How is it funded?

Re: Health Insurance [Re: 1ShotNoKills] #13281786 09/15/19 07:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 4,942
Notaguide Offline
TFF Team Angler
Offline
TFF Team Angler
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 4,942
We should just let underprivileged people die

Re: Health Insurance [Re: fishslime] #13281789 09/15/19 07:29 PM
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 82,700
B
Bob Davis Online Content
Bunkeroid Bob
Online Content
Bunkeroid Bob
B
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 82,700
Originally Posted by fishslime
Originally Posted by Bob Davis
Originally Posted by fishslime


I take this to mean that all who work very hard to make a living and simply can't afford health insurance that has anything but catastrophic coverage in the plan are low IQ (Where have we heard this before?) This response certainly has no noble quality to it. Those who like their insurance, can afford the premium, and want to keep it should be able to do so. However, there needs to be a public option for two reasons. It will be less costly for those who can't afford private plans, and it will serve to keep the insurance companies somewhat honest if they get their fees out of line with the public offering. Some will say this is socialized medicine. We already have socialized medicine. The insurance companies are the socialists. They set the fees that all doctors, hospitals, and medical services get paid. Everyone knows that. We are a better country than one who only thinks that those with the ample resources should have effective health care.


So you mean that if I like my Doctor I can keep my Doctor and if I like my health plan I can keep my Health Plan? Sounds familiar. Obamacare crashed and burned terribly. The hidden mandate required forcing everyone to jump onto "Govt. Healthcare". Well, the majority did not care for ineffective medical care provided by Gov. HMOs. So, they opted to pay the fine instead. Don't blame Conservatives for that. Also, I did not say that only those with ample resources should have health care. Bona fide disabilities excepted, understanably. "We are better than that" is a trite and hackneyed phrase thrown around by the left. It means, we should tax those who choose to work and better themselves and society as a reward for their efforts and distribute it to those parasites who would rather smoke crack and watch TV.


We are better than that. Citizens of industrialized countries have some type of universal coverage, and there is no reason that we should not be able to do that here. If they pay for it, we can too. The public wanted it when Obama was elected, and he caved on the public option according to the GOP's wishes, which turned it all back over to the insurance companies to rule. That's where we remain today. The general public wants healthcare reform, or it wouldn't be an issue. It's not the crackhead, couch potato that's the problem. Rather it is the working public who often work for themselves and simply can't afford high insurance premiums. Again, we are better than that.


Well, as you are aware, Socialism does not work. Ever. Mick Jagger came to the United States for his heart surgery. Canadians and Mexicans come to the United States for surgery. So these "industrialized nations" that you reference may have universal coverage which sounds great on paper and in the minds of liberals, but their medicine sucks pond water. So, our health system, granted needs some reform to bring costs more inline, but it is still the best in the World. We are already BETTER than that.


[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]



Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
Re: Health Insurance [Re: Notaguide] #13281802 09/15/19 07:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 41,939
Ghost4BH Offline
TFF Guru
Offline
TFF Guru
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 41,939
Originally Posted by Notaguide
We should just let underprivileged people die

Are you ever going to answer the question I asked in the other thread, or are you going to ignore it?

Re: Health Insurance [Re: Pintail711] #13281812 09/15/19 07:47 PM
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 10,261
R
Rayzor Offline
TFF Guru
Offline
TFF Guru
R
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 10,261
Originally Posted by Pintail711
Originally Posted by fish4bass
Anyone have employer providered health care that is decent priced?


Hard Rain does.


Yes. My company pays my medical, dental and vision 100%. I pay $143 a month for my daughter for medical, $11 for dental and $3.50 for vision. That’s the $500 PPO plan too. My wife’s company pays her medical, dental and vision.


It wasn't that long ago that the company I worked for (as well as many others) paid for all of my insurance.


Be safe,
Rayzor
[Linked Image]
2001 Triton Tx-21/225 Mercury EFI
Re: Health Insurance [Re: Rayzor] #13281825 09/15/19 08:00 PM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,735
G
gander Online Content
TFF Team Angler
Online Content
TFF Team Angler
G
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,735
Originally Posted by Rayzor
Originally Posted by Pintail711
Originally Posted by fish4bass
Anyone have employer providered health care that is decent priced?


Hard Rain does.


Yes. My company pays my medical, dental and vision 100%. I pay $143 a month for my daughter for medical, $11 for dental and $3.50 for vision. That’s the $500 PPO plan too. My wife’s company pays her medical, dental and vision.


It wasn't that long ago that the company I worked for (as well as many others) paid for all of my insurance.
Yes I was still working when when the "ultimate plan " for health care came about and that was when things started to deteriorate and expenses rose and the coverage declined.

Last edited by gander; 09/15/19 08:01 PM.
Re: Health Insurance [Re: Sawhorse] #13281848 09/15/19 08:24 PM
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,190
F
fishslime Offline
TFF Celebrity
Offline
TFF Celebrity
F
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,190
Originally Posted by Sawhorse
Originally Posted by fishslime
We are better than that. Citizens of industrialized countries have some type of universal coverage, and there is no reason that we should not be able to do that here. If they pay for it, we can too. The public wanted it when Obama was elected, and he caved on the public option according to the GOP's wishes, which turned it all back over to the insurance companies to rule. That's where we remain today. The general public wants healthcare reform, or it wouldn't be an issue. It's not the crackhead, couch potato that's the problem. Rather it is the working public who often work for themselves and simply can't afford high insurance premiums. Again, we are better than that.

I’m open to ideas. What do you propose? Who is (and isn’t) covered? How does it work? How is it funded?


The only way it will improve is that there be a integration of public and private coverage for those who need it and/or want it. I believe it is basically the plan Biden is putting forth. Medicare for all is NOT going to ever be supported at this point in time. There has to be a compromise of sorts, but the insurance companies must be challenged with a public option. Otherwise NOTHING will change. Just remember, anything that is sold on the stock exchange (i.e. health insurance) is about the shareholders - not us. Warren does have that part right. I wish folks would listen to some of the ideas and get the facts straight before forming a hard set opinion. The devil is in the details, and if the details don't appear, to hell with it. Bottom line, the majority of the voters want health care reform.

Re: Health Insurance [Re: 1ShotNoKills] #13281853 09/15/19 08:28 PM
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 28,574
G
Gusick Online Sick
TFF Guru
Online Sick
TFF Guru
G
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 28,574
The irritating thing about employer-provided health insurance is, that you usually don't know what you are getting until you get it. An employer will tell you that they offer health insurance, but details are seldom forthcoming and most people are not going to ask too many questions about it. It turns them off if it looks like the insurance is most important to you, but it often is. I know people who left a job to take a higher paying job and ended up being worse off because of the difference in health insurance.

Re: Health Insurance [Re: Bob Davis] #13281859 09/15/19 08:37 PM
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,190
F
fishslime Offline
TFF Celebrity
Offline
TFF Celebrity
F
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,190
Originally Posted by Bob Davis
Originally Posted by fishslime
Originally Posted by Bob Davis
Originally Posted by fishslime


I take this to mean that all who work very hard to make a living and simply can't afford health insurance that has anything but catastrophic coverage in the plan are low IQ (Where have we heard this before?) This response certainly has no noble quality to it. Those who like their insurance, can afford the premium, and want to keep it should be able to do so. However, there needs to be a public option for two reasons. It will be less costly for those who can't afford private plans, and it will serve to keep the insurance companies somewhat honest if they get their fees out of line with the public offering. Some will say this is socialized medicine. We already have socialized medicine. The insurance companies are the socialists. They set the fees that all doctors, hospitals, and medical services get paid. Everyone knows that. We are a better country than one who only thinks that those with the ample resources should have effective health care.


So you mean that if I like my Doctor I can keep my Doctor and if I like my health plan I can keep my Health Plan? Sounds familiar. Obamacare crashed and burned terribly. The hidden mandate required forcing everyone to jump onto "Govt. Healthcare". Well, the majority did not care for ineffective medical care provided by Gov. HMOs. So, they opted to pay the fine instead. Don't blame Conservatives for that. Also, I did not say that only those with ample resources should have health care. Bona fide disabilities excepted, understanably. "We are better than that" is a trite and hackneyed phrase thrown around by the left. It means, we should tax those who choose to work and better themselves and society as a reward for their efforts and distribute it to those parasites who would rather smoke crack and watch TV.


We are better than that. Citizens of industrialized countries have some type of universal coverage, and there is no reason that we should not be able to do that here. If they pay for it, we can too. The public wanted it when Obama was elected, and he caved on the public option according to the GOP's wishes, which turned it all back over to the insurance companies to rule. That's where we remain today. The general public wants healthcare reform, or it wouldn't be an issue. It's not the crackhead, couch potato that's the problem. Rather it is the working public who often work for themselves and simply can't afford high insurance premiums. Again, we are better than that.


Well, as you are aware, Socialism does not work. Ever. Mick Jagger came to the United States for his heart surgery. Canadians and Mexicans come to the United States for surgery. So these "industrialized nations" that you reference may have universal coverage which sounds great on paper and in the minds of liberals, but their medicine sucks pond water. So, our health system, granted needs some reform to bring costs more inline, but it is still the best in the World. We are already BETTER than that.


Thank you for agreeing that our system needs reform. You are taking this to a quality issue, and we started off with affordability and access. The quality of our health care providers (with some exceptions) is excellent. However, this means nothing to those who can't afford it and don't go to the doctor as a result. This should not be an outcome of the best health care system in the world as you seem to think it is. Again, we can do better than this, and if we don't try, this conversation will be eternally ongoing. Before, slamming socialistic medicine, it might be a good idea to talk to some of those in Canada and England - they are not of the opinion their health care "sucks pond water". For what it is worth, I have.

Re: Health Insurance [Re: JAlfred] #13281864 09/15/19 08:45 PM
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 82,700
B
Bob Davis Online Content
Bunkeroid Bob
Online Content
Bunkeroid Bob
B
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 82,700
Originally Posted by JAlfred
Originally Posted by Bob Davis
Originally Posted by JAlfred
Actually, it is a surprise that a government program works on something as complex as health care and insurance. I fail to understand what is "pitiful" about it. Perhaps you could explain?

Health insurance and health care in general are extremely important issues in America right now. I took this thread to be a possible source for a variety of viewpoints. My post was a sincere effort to hear other people's thoughts.

What's actually pitiful is the current state of health insurance and health care in our country. It's more than pitiful--it's a disaster. I have two sons who are struggling to pay for their health insurance. They are not alone--many others have the same problem or don't have insurance at all.

Several candidates for president in 2020 are advocating Medicare For All. I don't know if that is a good idea or not, but it's at least worth discussing--even on a fishing forum.


As noble as your intent was JAlfred, the reality is that Someone has to pay for health care. No sane person would ever want to go in debt for a medical degree, nursing or doctor etc. to work for free. The moral of the story is that everyone has to contribute to pay their own way in this world in some fashion. It is political theatre for the democratic candidates pandering to those low IQ folks who don't understand the concept of working to better themselves and society.

I totally understand this. However, I hope there is a better way for medical professionals (and their patients) to thrive.

Medical costs for the same procedure vary widely across America and even across the same city. There is no evidence that the higher cost options result in a better outcome for the patient.

The out-of-network trap can happen to anyone. The network provider lists for most (if not all) insurance plans are riddled with errors in my experience. If you are unlucky enough to need an emergency room visit, you have little to no control over who takes care of you.

Yes, there is a lot of political theatre and pandering going on. But, there are many Americans who are not low IQ and who are working their butts off but are still living paycheck to paycheck. I think they would welcome and benefit from a better health insurance and health care system than we have now.


Agree, the health insurance and care systems need improvement. You would not believe what I have to pay for my Medicare B and D coverage and my wifes individual BCBS coverage. I am being penalized heavily by the Affordable Care Act IRRMA clause. HEAVILY. And I don't use the doctor much at all. A year ago, before I retired, I had a friend working as a contractor (green card) cleaning staff, who had lasik surgery on both of her eyes at Parkland and paid less than $100. Her husband had knee surgery at Parkland, less than $250 she said. No insurance. So, I don't buy the claim that the poor will go without.


[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]



Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
Re: Health Insurance [Re: fishslime] #13281901 09/15/19 09:13 PM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 16,045
S
steveiam Online Content
TFF Guru
Online Content
TFF Guru
S
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 16,045
Originally Posted by fishslime
Originally Posted by Sawhorse
Originally Posted by fishslime
We are better than that. Citizens of industrialized countries have some type of universal coverage, and there is no reason that we should not be able to do that here. If they pay for it, we can too. The public wanted it when Obama was elected, and he caved on the public option according to the GOP's wishes, which turned it all back over to the insurance companies to rule. That's where we remain today. The general public wants healthcare reform, or it wouldn't be an issue. It's not the crackhead, couch potato that's the problem. Rather it is the working public who often work for themselves and simply can't afford high insurance premiums. Again, we are better than that.

I’m open to ideas. What do you propose? Who is (and isn’t) covered? How does it work? How is it funded?


The only way it will improve is that there be a integration of public and private coverage for those who need it and/or want it. I believe it is basically the plan Biden is putting forth. Medicare for all is NOT going to ever be supported at this point in time. There has to be a compromise of sorts, but the insurance companies must be challenged with a public option. Otherwise NOTHING will change. Just remember, anything that is sold on the stock exchange (i.e. health insurance) is about the shareholders - not us. Warren does have that part right. I wish folks would listen to some of the ideas and get the facts straight before forming a hard set opinion. The devil is in the details, and if the details don't appear, to hell with it. Bottom line, the majority of the voters want health care reform.


The people that people like you support took a system that needed to be better and destroyed it-
Lies and personal gain was rampant, and “my” guys simply let it happen with only BS talk, but really didn’t fight it-
It’s now worse that before they meddled with it-
And yet you and others are coming at us again with the same nonsense-
I don’t know the answer because we can’t trust those who maybe could help it get better-
I just know a bunch of politicians lies to us AGAIN, and now you guys are coming back to the same well with that “we are better than that” nonsense-
To make yourselves feel better, you have hurt many, many folks who DID work hard and plan for the future-

Why would you not care about THAT?

We should be better than that-


What has happed to you does not define who you are-

HOW you react to what happens to you DOES!
Re: Health Insurance [Re: steveiam] #13281943 09/15/19 10:08 PM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,735
G
gander Online Content
TFF Team Angler
Online Content
TFF Team Angler
G
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,735
Originally Posted by steveiam
Originally Posted by fishslime
Originally Posted by Sawhorse
Originally Posted by fishslime
We are better than that. Citizens of industrialized countries have some type of universal coverage, and there is no reason that we should not be able to do that here. If they pay for it, we can too. The public wanted it when Obama was elected, and he caved on the public option according to the GOP's wishes, which turned it all back over to the insurance companies to rule. That's where we remain today. The general public wants healthcare reform, or it wouldn't be an issue. It's not the crackhead, couch potato that's the problem. Rather it is the working public who often work for themselves and simply can't afford high insurance premiums. Again, we are better than that.

I’m open to ideas. What do you propose? Who is (and isn’t) covered? How does it work? How is it funded?


The only way it will improve is that there be a integration of public and private coverage for those who need it and/or want it. I believe it is basically the plan Biden is putting forth. Medicare for all is NOT going to ever be supported at this point in time. There has to be a compromise of sorts, but the insurance companies must be challenged with a public option. Otherwise NOTHING will change. Just remember, anything that is sold on the stock exchange (i.e. health insurance) is about the shareholders - not us. Warren does have that part right. I wish folks would listen to some of the ideas and get the facts straight before forming a hard set opinion. The devil is in the details, and if the details don't appear, to hell with it. Bottom line, the majority of the voters want health care reform.


The people that people like you support took a system that needed to be better and destroyed it-
Lies and personal gain was rampant, and “my” guys simply let it happen with only BS talk, but really didn’t fight it-
It’s now worse that before they meddled with it-
And yet you and others are coming at us again with the same nonsense-
I don’t know the answer because we can’t trust those who maybe could help it get better-
I just know a bunch of politicians lies to us AGAIN, and now you guys are coming back to the same well with that “we are better than that” nonsense-
To make yourselves feel better, you have hurt many, many folks who DID work hard and plan for the future-

Why would you not care about THAT?

We should be better than that-
thumb indeed

Re: Health Insurance [Re: Bob Davis] #13281950 09/15/19 10:18 PM
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,190
F
fishslime Offline
TFF Celebrity
Offline
TFF Celebrity
F
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,190
Originally Posted by Bob Davis
Originally Posted by JAlfred
Originally Posted by Bob Davis
Originally Posted by JAlfred
Actually, it is a surprise that a government program works on something as complex as health care and insurance. I fail to understand what is "pitiful" about it. Perhaps you could explain?

Health insurance and health care in general are extremely important issues in America right now. I took this thread to be a possible source for a variety of viewpoints. My post was a sincere effort to hear other people's thoughts.

What's actually pitiful is the current state of health insurance and health care in our country. It's more than pitiful--it's a disaster. I have two sons who are struggling to pay for their health insurance. They are not alone--many others have the same problem or don't have insurance at all.

Several candidates for president in 2020 are advocating Medicare For All. I don't know if that is a good idea or not, but it's at least worth discussing--even on a fishing forum.


As noble as your intent was JAlfred, the reality is that Someone has to pay for health care. No sane person would ever want to go in debt for a medical degree, nursing or doctor etc. to work for free. The moral of the story is that everyone has to contribute to pay their own way in this world in some fashion. It is political theatre for the democratic candidates pandering to those low IQ folks who don't understand the concept of working to better themselves and society.

I totally understand this. However, I hope there is a better way for medical professionals (and their patients) to thrive.

Medical costs for the same procedure vary widely across America and even across the same city. There is no evidence that the higher cost options result in a better outcome for the patient.

The out-of-network trap can happen to anyone. The network provider lists for most (if not all) insurance plans are riddled with errors in my experience. If you are unlucky enough to need an emergency room visit, you have little to no control over who takes care of you.

Yes, there is a lot of political theatre and pandering going on. But, there are many Americans who are not low IQ and who are working their butts off but are still living paycheck to paycheck. I think they would welcome and benefit from a better health insurance and health care system than we have now.


Agree, the health insurance and care systems need improvement. You would not believe what I have to pay for my Medicare B and D coverage and my wifes individual BCBS coverage. I am being penalized heavily by the Affordable Care Act IRRMA clause. HEAVILY. And I don't use the doctor much at all. A year ago, before I retired, I had a friend working as a contractor (green card) cleaning staff, who had lasik surgery on both of her eyes at Parkland and paid less than $100. Her husband had knee surgery at Parkland, less than $250 she said. No insurance. So, I don't buy the claim that the poor will go without.

I don't understand why yourself and others pay so much for coverage when on Medicare. I don't remember what the Medicare premium is ($120/mo?) plus my $87/mo Humana supplement (PPO, dental care, visioncare) and no charge for three prescriptions that I take regularly. It is better coverage for less money by far than when I was teaching at a university enrolled in Blue Cross. I had cataract surgery a few months ago - my cost $400/eye. As far as those with green cards, we need to remember that they do pay taxes and deserve something. That said, I think you would agree that most of us feel more comfortable going somewhere else than Parkland, and that's all they can rely on.

Page 7 of 18 1 2 5 6 7 8 9 17 18
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

© 1998-2022 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3