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Re: Brisket help
[Re: Derek 🐝]
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09/12/19 03:24 PM
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Frank the Tank
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I think I’ve mastered [quote=cocodrie] Maybe so. But it wont be because of the higher fat content. Higher quality beef is trimmed at a much higher standard and will have a much more even fatcap and shape in general. So yes a 10 lb wagyu brisket will cook faster than a 16 lb choice brisket with an inch thick fat cap. But again, not due to the higher fat content. Quite the opposite actually.[quote=Derek 🐝]Y'all need to go to the Test section and work on using the Quote feature. Come back when you've mastered it. /quote] testing - quote can I keep quoting? You're doing good. Keep up the good work little buddy. It now.
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Re: Brisket help
[Re: Jpurdue]
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09/12/19 04:10 PM
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Jerry713
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Yeah, I understand how the waygu is physically different, just didn't know how the cooking would be different. Sounds like it might cook faster. Maybe that's what saved me given the low temp I cooked at for half the cook. Yes sir you nailed it!
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Re: Brisket help
[Re: 5PounderOnAFrog]
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09/12/19 04:14 PM
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Jerry713
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[quote=Jerry713][quote=Bigbob_FTW]200 was plenty done. should have gone in a cooler at that point. Wrong. The whole point of cooking a brisket to ~200 is to render the fat. Therefore more fat would mean longer cook time. In 25 years of cooking briskets and 15 of those cooking competitively this hasn't been my experience at all. My experience a brisket like wagyu with a higher fat content cooks faster.
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Re: Brisket help
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09/12/19 04:22 PM
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Ghost4BH
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[quote=Jerry713][quote=Bigbob_FTW]200 was plenty done. should have gone in a cooler at that point. Wrong. The whole point of cooking a brisket to ~200 is to render the fat. Therefore more fat would mean longer cook time. In 25 years of cooking briskets and 15 of those cooking competitively this hasn't been my experience at all. My experience a brisket like wagyu with a higher fat content cooks faster.
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Re: Brisket help
[Re: Ghost4BH]
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09/12/19 04:43 PM
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5PounderOnAFrog
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Marbling =/= higher fat content. It is the dispersement or 'even-ness' of the intramuscular fat between the lean muscle fibers. In addition, the quality of the fat in a cut of Wagyu is much higher than that of its lower quality counterparts. Wagyu is more rich in monounsaturated fats whereas a lower quality cut is richer in saturated fats. Monounsaturated fats have a lower melting point than saturated fatty acids. Due to the smaller, but more evenly dispersed Monounsaturated fat deposits, it may cook faster, but more fat does not equal faster cook time.
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Re: Brisket help
[Re: Jpurdue]
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09/12/19 04:47 PM
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5PounderOnAFrog
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Think about a stick of butter. If you put a whole stick on a pan will it melt faster than that same stick cut into 8 smaller pieces?
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Re: Brisket help
[Re: Jpurdue]
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09/12/19 04:54 PM
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5PounderOnAFrog
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How about if you leave those 8 pieces sitting out at room temp then throw them on the pan? Those will certainly melt faster than the whole stick right out of the fridge. Think of wagyu as the 8 pieces of butter that sat at room temp. Monounsaturated fat is a liquid at room temp. Saturated fat is a solid at room temp.
Last edited by 5PounderOnAFrog; 09/12/19 04:55 PM.
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Re: Brisket help
[Re: Jpurdue]
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09/12/19 05:04 PM
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Frank the Tank
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Dang it!!! Now I gotta eat Q for lunch. I’m feenin for meat
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Re: Brisket help
[Re: Jpurdue]
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09/12/19 05:05 PM
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elcoyote, esq.
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Someone is trying really hard to not be wrong
Team wolfs I had to perform. It took a minute to get it all in my mouth and another five to swallow it all.
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Re: Brisket help
[Re: elcoyote, esq.]
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09/12/19 05:08 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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Someone is trying really hard to not be wrong Imma go with 25 year experience myself.
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Re: Brisket help
[Re: 5PounderOnAFrog]
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09/12/19 05:09 PM
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Sawhorse
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Think about a stick of butter. If you put a whole stick on a pan will it melt faster than that same stick cut into 8 smaller pieces? Would these 8 pieces be individually wrapped?
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Re: Brisket help
[Re: elcoyote, esq.]
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09/12/19 05:10 PM
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5PounderOnAFrog
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Someone is trying really hard to not be wrong Just splitting hairs. JayC likes to correct people (or try to) so i was just returning the favor.
Last edited by 5PounderOnAFrog; 09/12/19 05:14 PM. Reason: I wasn't wrong doe
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Re: Brisket help
[Re: Sawhorse]
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09/12/19 05:43 PM
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elcoyote, esq.
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Think about a stick of butter. If you put a whole stick on a pan will it melt faster than that same stick cut into 8 smaller pieces? Would these 8 pieces be individually wrapped? Only if it came from a gay cow, and was churned by a gay Amish lady
Team wolfs I had to perform. It took a minute to get it all in my mouth and another five to swallow it all.
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