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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga [Re: Barn] #13260840 08/27/19 12:54 AM
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... but Canterbury, Zaldain, the Johnstons, Gustafson, Fieder, and a bunch more are head and shoulders better fisherman than a whole slew of those guys now.


Those guys would be lucky crack the top 50 in BPT if you compare their past and current success. They are in the top of BASS now. However, if you want to compare talent there is no way BASS is even close to BPT top to bottom. As for comparing formats that's apples and oranges. But, the BPT guys are the ones that dominate BASS and FLW for years. Again, the top 5-10 in BASS or FLW could compete with the best of BPT anglers on any given day.

It's similar to trying convince someone that Conference USA or Mountain West has better talent than the SEC in football. You might like the style of play but the doesn't make the talent better.

If there fishing or college football on TV, I am going to watch it. As long as I find it entertaining / competitive regardless of the talent or style of play, I'm all in. cheers



Absolutely laughable. My original quote said that anyone that thinks BPT is the best of the best fishermen from top to bottom is confused. I don't agree with your numbers, but even you said some of them in BASS and FLW are better than guys in BPT. I don't know what the past and football has to do with it, but thank you for agreeing with me.

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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga [Re: rj74955] #13260878 08/27/19 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by rj74955
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... but Canterbury, Zaldain, the Johnstons, Gustafson, Fieder, and a bunch more are head and shoulders better fisherman than a whole slew of those guys now.


Those guys would be lucky crack the top 50 in BPT if you compare their past and current success. They are in the top of BASS now. However, if you want to compare talent there is no way BASS is even close to BPT top to bottom. As for comparing formats that's apples and oranges. But, the BPT guys are the ones that dominate BASS and FLW for years. Again, the top 5-10 in BASS or FLW could compete with the best of BPT anglers on any given day.

It's similar to trying convince someone that Conference USA or Mountain West has better talent than the SEC in football. You might like the style of play but the doesn't make the talent better.

If there fishing or college football on TV, I am going to watch it. As long as I find it entertaining / competitive regardless of the talent or style of play, I'm all in. cheers



Absolutely laughable. My original quote said that anyone that thinks BPT is the best of the best fishermen from top to bottom is confused. I don't agree with your numbers, but even you said some of them in BASS and FLW are better than guys in BPT. I don't know what the past and football has to do with it, but thank you for agreeing with me.


Confused about what? BPT as a group are the best of the best top to bottom, not even close. The guys now fishing BASS and FLW didn't all of sudden didn't get any better. The competition left. I think we all agree that BASS and FLW still have some top level studs remaining. But we are talking maybe 5 guys. Not 50+ deep out of the top 80.

Please list all of the BASS and FLW tournament wins and AOY's for BPT guys and then list those same accomplishments from either of the remaining BASS and FLW guys. If it shows then you don't have to convince everyone how they are better than BPT anglers.

Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga [Re: Fishspanker] #13260933 08/27/19 02:12 AM
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For you to say there isn’t many flw anglers with a lot accomplishments is little off. Thrift, Martin,Dudley, Nixon ,Cox combine for about $ 12,832,477 and few aoy and cups between them I would say that not to bad

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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga [Re: Fishspanker] #13260945 08/27/19 02:20 AM
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I prefer BASS can’t take MLF announcers seriously

Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga [Re: MadFluker] #13260955 08/27/19 02:27 AM
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I'll bet ike is the 1st to jump ship.


Why, he getting lots of camera time and catching lot of under 2 lb giants.. : )

Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga [Re: rj74955] #13260984 08/27/19 02:52 AM
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Absolutely laughable. My original quote said that anyone that thinks BPT is the best of the best fishermen from top to bottom is confused. I don't agree with your numbers, but even you said some of them in BASS and FLW are better than guys in BPT. I don't know what the past and football has to do with it, but thank you for agreeing with me. [/quote]

You are right. BPT only got 78 of the top 90 professional fishermen from FLW and BASS.


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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga [Re: RMOROTT21] #13260999 08/27/19 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by RMOROTT21
For you to say there isn’t many flw anglers with a lot accomplishments is little off. Thrift, Martin,Dudley, Nixon ,Cox combine for about $ 12,832,477 and few aoy and cups between them I would say that not to bad


"...I think we all agree that BASS and FLW still have some top level studs remaining. But we are talking maybe 5 guys. Not 50+ deep out of the top 80."

Thift is my favorite on FLW. However, you listed 5 guys that everyone agrees are top notch. Now go ahead an compare the next 75 guys in FLW.






Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga [Re: Fishspanker] #13261011 08/27/19 03:16 AM
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Plenty of those guys at mlf have not been relevant since late 90s and early 2000s duckett, Kelly Jordan , Gary Klein, Paul Elias just to name few I don’t care either way according to some on here mlf is gonna make fishing on tv as big as college football or nfl ratings

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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga [Re: Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)] #13261077 08/27/19 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)
I prefer BASS can’t take MLF announcers seriously


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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga [Re: Finesse EMPEROR/ Dropshot King] #13261118 08/27/19 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Finesse Master/ Dropshot king
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I prefer BASS can’t take MLF announcers seriously


+1


On a lighter note, the real winner in this whole deal has been my boy Mercer. Now that some of you guys have someone/something new to hate, you’ve given him and the whole BASS crew a much needed pass. thumb

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Originally Posted by Mark Jones
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I prefer BASS can’t take MLF announcers seriously


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On a lighter note, the real winner in this whole deal has been my boy Mercer. Now that some of you guys have someone/something new to hate, you’ve given him and the whole BASS crew a much needed pass. thumb

Ha, that is true. But I haven't heard the ggggggggggggggggiant bass as much this year lol

Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga [Re: RMOROTT21] #13261290 08/27/19 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RMOROTT21
Plenty of those guys at mlf have not been relevant since late 90s and early 2000s duckett, Kelly Jordan , Gary Klein, Paul Elias just to name few I don’t care either way according to some on here mlf is gonna make fishing on tv as big as college football or nfl ratings

As I have said before I like all 3 (and Im not jumping on you just wanted to reply to your post) if MLF is going to make this happen they are going to have to do something about catching 63 fish (which is really good for one day) that only weigh 85 pounds versus someone weighing 5 fish for 20 plus pounds, I know this is just my opinion also.

Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga [Re: Fishspanker] #13261307 08/27/19 01:37 PM
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Do y'all ever get tired of arguing over this stupid topic every other week??

Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga [Re: Fishspanker] #13261311 08/27/19 01:41 PM
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MLF PRO is like he said its boring to watch guys catching 1 & 2 #ers all day long .however watching the others are just as boring when fish are not biting .like the other guy on here said .turn it off hook on the boat and make your on fun


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Originally Posted by Butch @Hubbard creek
MLF PRO is like he said its boring to watch guys catching 1 & 2 #ers all day long .however watching the others are just as boring when fish are not biting .like the other guy on here said .turn it off hook on the boat and make your on fun

Butch you make the most sense lol you are correct sir well said.

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