pretty sure you can get a raptor for that kind of money, or any f-150 or Chevy 1500 with a 6.2 gasser that would be a lot cheaper and probably have a similar tow rating. That is a ridiculous amount of money for a glorified half ton truck.

My good friend has a 17 tows a 36 ft fifth wheel says it does a fine job. It ain’t beautiful but it’s a truck and it works for him. But resale maybe brutal since they are leaving the market.
J D

Amusing.
I can remember 5 years or so back before the Eco-Diesel and Nissan XD were released, everyone was clamoring for a smaller diesel pick-up and then so excited to learn they were coming!
Finally a mid-sized diesel truck!!!
Then, when they were finally introduced......pfft!
"too expensive, lousy mileage, not reliable, fugly, don't measure up to a F-250, too heavy.....blah, blah, blah"
LOL

That was my thinking as well. I was interested to see the Nissan when they first introduced the Cummins. Once I saw the price, I never stepped foot on a dealer lot.

I don't think you got that right at all. The titan delivers 1/2 the capability of any of the big 3's diesel 3/4 tons with worse fuel mileage. I don't think anyone, or at least I sure didn't want a medium duty between a 1/2 ton and a 3/4.

What the heck is a 1/2 ton anyway? The current production 1/2 tons are rated to tow more than 1-tons of yesteryear.

Well... we know why now. When you can't sell a damn truck, might as well try to make something off of it! The big 3 aren't going to move much because they know their trucks are in demand daily.

I think the other problem with Nissian is... I'm sure I can speak for most of us saying that we didn't grow up "driving dads Nissian." You most likely grew up on a Ford, Dodge, or Chevy. And the people that grew up on those trucks can be very brand loyal like myself. I grew up on Chevy, that's what I run. I think the only brand loyal Nissian people are the mexicans with their souped up GTR's.

My dad has always said he'd whip my [censored] if he caught me in a Ford or Dodge. I'm running a bowtie truck

I converted my chevy dad to a cummins

I'm sorry to hear that.. My condolences

My old Titan was a beast, I beat the heck out of it and it wouldn't quit. Shame they couldn't compete. I think they should've just made it a half ton with a little better mpg. I have an ecodiesel now and wouldn't trade it for anything

My take is that no one make has the best of what you want every year. Drove GM's for many years and at the time they were the best options to me. I don't own one now and wont till I think they are the best fit for me again.

Dad is happy as a clam with his 1-ton '18 cummins. Granted it is newer, but it would drag his '04 Duramax sideways has tons more power is a 1-ton long bed 4x4 compared to his old one 2wd short bed and gets better mileage empty and loaded.

Yeah.. I'm sure a 2018 Duramax would drag a 2004 Cummins too.

Either way, im just pulling your leg man! Nothing wrong with Ram. Would much prefer one over Ford

Hate to hear this. We need competition to keep the big 3 in check. Don't know about their trucks but Nissan makes a great car. I've heard from 2 guys that sold their 2017 3.5 Ecoboost and bought a Titan XD and both said the acceleration doesn't compare (obviously) but the towing power is much better in the Titan than the gen 2 Ecoboost.

If all you need is a half ton ecoboost 3.5 is a fine tow vehicle.

The Titan gas motor is actually really good. Brother used to work at a dealership and had a guy bring in one with over 1,000,000 miles on it - original engine, 2nd transmission, lots of towing.

Problem with the Cummins is that I heard the results from the dyno at the wheels was very, very weak compared to the test done at the crankshaft. The Nissan drivetrain really weakened the delivery.

There really isn't any room between 1/2 and 3/4 ton trucks anymore. The 1/2 ton diesels from Ford/Chevy/Ram are all selling pretty well because they're offering something the half ton market doesn't have - not because they're trying to bridge the gap. Very few folks own a trailer that a 1/2 ton can't tow who are really upset that they have to buy a 3/4 ton.

Also, as mentioned, the Titans are just stupidly expensive.

I think if Ram offered a 1500HD with the 5.0 Cummins and a 13,000 lbs tow rating, they'd sell pretty well. But the article is right about truck brand loyalty being a large barrier, and folks just aren't going to go buy a Nissan for $50k+ unless it blows everything away, the Titan XD just doesn't.

Well said. Some have said the Titan Cummins does tow better than the 3.5 Ecoboost but for the difference in price, added fuel and maintenance cost I'm sticking with my Ecoboost.