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Stripers on Whitney disappeared because TPWD doesn't monitor guides #13248344 08/15/19 02:53 AM
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I have a pretty good idea why the stripers have disappeared from Lake Whitney. There was a guide on Whitney until about 3 weeks ago running 4 boats, and each boat was taking 4-6 customers every morning and every afternoon. All 4 boats were communicating with each other, so when one boat got on the fish the others went to that spot. All four boats were bringing in limits of stripers in the morning and again in the afternoon. If each boat only had 4 people, that is 160 fish per day. This guy was doing that 7 days per week. That is over 1100 stripers per week that he was pulling out of Lake Whitney. When you ad all of the other guides to that number who fish Whitney it is easy to see why the Stripers have disappeared.
About 3 weeks ago the 4 boat guide realized he had fished out lake Whitney so he took his boats down to the coast to fish for King fish. As soon as king fish season is over he is planning to bring all 4 boats back up here to work Richland Chambers. If he runs morning and afternoon trips with 4 boats like he did on Whitney it won't be long before he has depleted the fish from Richland Chambers as well.
TPWD keeps no records of how many fish the guides are taking out of the lakes. If TPWD required guides to report on the numbers of fish they take, then TPWD would know how many fish they need to put back in the lake after a guide like Cory over fishes it.

Re: Stripers on Whitney disappeared because TPWD doesn't monitor guides [Re: bluesea112] #13248505 08/15/19 11:43 AM
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WOW! That guide must have a great marketing plan. 8 trips a day for 7 days. He does not appear to be breaking any laws or rules.





Re: Stripers on Whitney disappeared because TPWD doesn't monitor guides [Re: bluesea112] #13248626 08/15/19 01:33 PM
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Tawakoni and Texoma are the same , fishing is good and then they are gone .You have some good guides and some that keep to many fish and over fish the lakes that we all pay to keep stocked . I wonder how much fish actually gets consumed . Do guides pay more for a license and have any extra fees to pay yearly ?

Re: Stripers on Whitney disappeared because TPWD doesn't monitor guides [Re: bluesea112] #13248637 08/15/19 01:38 PM
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Sound like he has a good business. To stay that busy. Also sound like he hasn't broken any laws


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Re: Stripers on Whitney disappeared because TPWD doesn't monitor guides [Re: bluesea112] #13248651 08/15/19 01:48 PM
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This is funny! Fish are NOT gone - they just are roaming fast above the thermocline and fishing is tough this time of year (85-90 degree water)

As for what guides pay - fresh water guide lic - $130

Re: Stripers on Whitney disappeared because TPWD doesn't monitor guides [Re: bluesea112] #13248662 08/15/19 01:56 PM
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So you’re saying that the guides are killing off their own livelihood for a couple bucks “right now”? I’m curious how you imagine they don’t have expenses or bills to pay, no matter what the fishing is like. My point is, these guides you criticize have serious investments in the consistency, health and production of the fishery. While there will always be exceptions, the guides want the rules followed perhaps more than most of us.


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Re: Stripers on Whitney disappeared because TPWD doesn't monitor guides [Re: bluesea112] #13248688 08/15/19 02:03 PM
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First off no guide is going to be running that many trips and catching that many fish week in and week out. End of the summer also have guides getting slammed for the end of the summer rush. Also since 2015 TPWD has stocked approx 2.5 MILLION stripers. I don't think guides are going to put a dent in the numbers.

Re: Stripers on Whitney disappeared because TPWD doesn't monitor guides [Re: bluesea112] #13248708 08/15/19 02:17 PM
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Fish are not gone , but the striped bass fishing is harder with the amount 100000 $ guide boats on the water for sure . Nobody can deny that .

Re: Stripers on Whitney disappeared because TPWD doesn't monitor guides [Re: bluesea112] #13248833 08/15/19 04:03 PM
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Somebody has had a hard time finding fish popcorn2


Having 4-5 great Striped fishy reservoirs within a hour from one of the biggest metropolitan areas in the country we are fortunate enough to have the light pressure that we have. Unfortunately, this is probably due to video games and non-sportsman environment that seems to be prevalent. I

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Re: Stripers on Whitney disappeared because TPWD doesn't monitor guides [Re: bluesea112] #13248838 08/15/19 04:05 PM
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Always somebody else's fault

Re: Stripers on Whitney disappeared because TPWD doesn't monitor guides [Re: Ed-n-eddy] #13248843 08/15/19 04:06 PM
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Couple of bucks ? That is an insult to guides .... some make over 10000 a month profit and some 1000 a week in the slow season .
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So you’re saying that the guides are killing off their own livelihood for a couple bucks “right now”? I’m curious how you imagine they don’t have expenses or bills to pay, no matter what the fishing is like. My point is, these guides you criticize have serious investments in the consistency, health and production of the fishery. While there will always be exceptions, the guides want the rules followed perhaps more than most of us.

Re: Stripers on Whitney disappeared because TPWD doesn't monitor guides [Re: BROWNING STRONG] #13249104 08/15/19 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by W.BROWNING
Fish are not gone , but the striped bass fishing is harder with the amount 100000 $ guide boats on the water for sure . Nobody can deny that .


So are you saying its $100K guide boats that make catching fish or the skill set of the guide. The reasons guides catch more fish is time on the water. Most weekend fisherman aren't successful consistently is lack of knowing where the fish are and not paying attention to details. If anything technology has made striper fishing easier.

Re: Stripers on Whitney disappeared because TPWD doesn't monitor guides [Re: bluesea112] #13249125 08/15/19 08:51 PM
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I blame good bait tank manufacturers.


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Re: Stripers on Whitney disappeared because TPWD doesn't monitor guides [Re: captaincam3] #13249145 08/15/19 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by captaincam3
I blame good bait tank manufacturers.


Hahaha I'm with this guy.

Re: Stripers on Whitney disappeared because TPWD doesn't monitor guides [Re: bluesea112] #13249190 08/15/19 09:39 PM
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Ya'll are too funny! Summer fishing is tough, I'm sure the stripers are still there. My buddy sent me a screenshot this winter of a ton of stripers on SI and he said it went on for close to a mile.


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