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Re: Do video games influence
[Re: slim 285]
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08/08/19 12:29 PM
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John175☮
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4 dead, 2 wounded in Southern California stabbings "A man who was “full of anger” went on a two-hour stabbing and robbery rampage in Southern California, killing four people and wounding two others, authorities said Wednesday. The 33-year-old Garden Grove man was taken into custody after he came out of a 7-Eleven in Santa Ana, southeast of Los Angeles, and dropped a knife along with a handgun that he had taken from a guard, police said. The violence appeared to be random and the only known motives seem to be “robbery, hate, homicide,” Garden Grove police Lt. Carl Whitney said at a news conference. “We know this guy was full of anger and he harmed a lot of people tonight,” he said." https://apnews.com/5e44f7bd106f4fce8da21c2c11f334fc
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Re: Do video games influence
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08/08/19 12:38 PM
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Duck_Hunter
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It's not video games, otherwise you'd see similar mass shootings in other countries. It's not a lack of God, otherwise you'd see similar mass shootings in other countries that are much less religious. It's ideology, encouragement, and easy access to guns. Plenty of guns in the middle east and you don't see mass murders. Oh really? There’s no mass murders in the Middle East? If gang shootings in Chicago aren’t the same as mass shootings here, then what’s happening in the Middle East isn’t the same, either. The mass shootings here are clearly different - and happening for different reasons - than gang shootings and violence in the Middle East.
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Re: Do video games influence
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08/08/19 12:43 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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I blame politicians(both sides) and the media. They have done nothing but fan the flames for over three years now. The "both sides" is very laughable. if you really believe this your even dumber than I give you credit for.
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Re: Do video games influence
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08/08/19 12:43 PM
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diggerwolf
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Video games and TV/movies are certainly a contributing factor, but what the mass media often fails to mention is that almost all of these shooters are on or have been prescribed either an anti-depressant or stimulant.
I wonder why that connection is rarely made? Big pharma?
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Re: Do video games influence
[Re: slim 285]
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08/08/19 01:05 PM
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John175☮
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Good clean discussion. Thanks to all participants.
The issue is complex. Hard to tie all the mass shooters to one common cause.
We are finding in the vast majority of these cases that the murderer was showing warning signs prior to the mass murder but nobody did anything.
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Re: Do video games influence
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08/08/19 01:26 PM
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CCTX
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There are plenty of crazy people in other countries.
The vast majority of the mass shooters are male. Many males in this country have a BB gun by ten years old, a .22 by twelve, and a shotgun by 16 There’s a skilled familiarity and accessibility with guns that you don’t see anywhere else. America is the world top economic power. To maintain that #1 spot requires fierce competition in the work force. The social pressure to be financially successful, physically attractive, and popular is higher here than anywhere. It’s when you combine these factors with a mentally ill person that bad things can happen
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Re: Do video games influence
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08/08/19 01:29 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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The social pressure to be financially successful, physically attractive, and popular is higher here than anywhere.
actually asian countries are much worse. South korea has one of the highest rates of suicide in the world.
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Re: Do video games influence
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08/08/19 01:33 PM
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I think a lot has to do with what was mentioned about the minds perception of fantasy and reality. Video games, TV, movies and many other things can influence your mind and thought process at any age, especially the younger one is. What's the old saying, garbage in, garbage out. The loss of respect for human life and others. They see on TV. movies, and the video games gun battles where guys kill many with no qualms about it, get shot themselves and keep going. To them, its no big deal and seems normal and doesn't mean anything. Like Cast, I went through pretty much the same thing with my son. I could have wrote that line for line. In those days, he listened to some kind of music, don't know what it was called, but I called it pissed off at the world music. Lots of it was in German. And, it's not just kids and young adults. I have known several people in their 40s and 50s who are addicted to the same games. One of my relatives, is 54, so addicted to Call of Duty, that he stays up all night, misses work, ignores the wife and kids, and basically lives for the game.
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Re: Do video games influence
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mstring
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And, to add to it, the media in general and our ability to know what is going on in the world minutes after it happens probably plays a part. Now days, we hear everything. When I was a kid, we basically only knew what was going on in our general area by word of mouth. We got our news from the paper or watching the evening news. They didn't sensationalize and spends days talking about a lot of the bad things going on in the world. Even things like hearing about someone in Florida going to the beach for the first time, getting caught up in the current and drowning. Those things have always happened, we just didn't hear about them as soon as they happened and for days afterwards.
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Re: Do video games influence
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08/08/19 01:56 PM
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I am torn a bit...What Cast wrote was eye opening and I do believe they have an influence. On that same note though, when I grew up, it was Ozzy or other heavy metal that was being blamed for the negative impact on kids....Secret messages by playing them backwards, subliminal devil worship messages in the songs. Didn't believe it then but I do believe the video game phenomenon and the impact on a growing brain.
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Re: Do video games influence
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08/08/19 01:59 PM
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I blame politicians(both sides) and the media. They have done nothing but fan the flames for over three years now. The "both sides" is very laughable.
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Re: Do video games influence
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08/08/19 02:07 PM
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John175☮
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“Do not pray for easier lives. Pray to be stronger men.” -JFK
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Re: Do video games influence
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08/08/19 02:12 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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I blame politicians(both sides) and the media. They have done nothing but fan the flames for over three years now. The "both sides" is very laughable.
FJB
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Re: Do video games influence
[Re: Tallgrass05]
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08/08/19 02:23 PM
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I blame politicians(both sides) and the media. They have done nothing but fan the flames for over three years now. The "both sides" is very laughable. I didn't think you were capable of laughing. I'll take that as a win.
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Re: Do video games influence
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08/08/19 03:33 PM
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I blame politicians(both sides) and the media. They have done nothing but fan the flames for over three years now. The "both sides" is very laughable. Perfect example of bias.
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