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Re: Do video games influence [Re: slim 285] #13239981 08/08/19 09:51 AM
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I would really like to say no. They tried to blame metal on a bunch of **** back when I was in high school. It's an easy scapegoat. But the almost an old in me is thinking. So many of that particular generation are complete morons. Easily manipulated. Not all. But a lot of them. I'm kind of with whoever said it earlier. A cause, nope. An influence, quite possible.

In my opinion. If we want to blame anything other than the individual. I blame politicians(both sides) and the media. They have done nothing but fan the flames for over three years now. At some point things were going to boil over. Here we are.

Re: Do video games influence [Re: slim 285] #13239996 08/08/19 10:39 AM
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Society as a whole

Re: Do video games influence [Re: slim 285] #13239999 08/08/19 10:42 AM
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Cause, no. Symptom, yes.


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Re: Do video games influence [Re: slim 285] #13240000 08/08/19 10:42 AM
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Re: Do video games influence [Re: slim 285] #13240010 08/08/19 11:10 AM
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The lack of parenting and discipline is to blame.

Re: Do video games influence [Re: slim 285] #13240011 08/08/19 11:11 AM
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Peanut allergies are rare but deadly when they do occur so we accommodate those with peanut allergies. Mental illness that causes one to execute a mass murder is rare and deadly. People prone to violence through mental illness could certainly be affected by violent video games and movies.

From the El Paso murderer's manifesto:

"Remember: it is not cowardly to pick low hanging fruit. AKA Don’t attack heavily guarded areas to fulfll your super soldier COD (Call of Duty) fantasy. Attack low security targets. Even though you might out gun a security guard or police man, they likely beat you in armor, training and numbers. Do not throw away your life on an unnecessarily dangerous target. If a target seems too hot, live to fight another day. "

https://drudgereport.com/flashtx.htm

We're discussing making Semi-auto, high capacity rifles illegal for all because of the mass murders which affects the entire population of the USA so I think the video game platform violence would be a comparable item for banning. Red Flag laws covering violent games and video in the household of the "Red Flagged" individual seems reasonable.

Neither banning would stop the mass murders but ineffective laws make us feel better because like...we did something so gosh darn it, we're good people.


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Re: Do video games influence [Re: Tallgrass05] #13240012 08/08/19 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Tallgrass05
It's not video games, otherwise you'd see similar mass shootings in other countries. It's not a lack of God, otherwise you'd see similar mass shootings in other countries that are much less religious.


There is a fascination with violence in our society that some can’t handle
NFL and MMA, people watch NASCAR for the wrecks.
Long history of citizen vs citizen gun violence here that wasn’t seen in other countries—more than half of the land mass of the US was lawless when revolvers became widely available. Many disputes settled by firing bullets


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Re: Do video games influence [Re: slim 285] #13240013 08/08/19 11:13 AM
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Re: Do video games influence [Re: slim 285] #13240017 08/08/19 11:20 AM
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Don't know if they have or not.

But do believe they negatively impact children's ability to distinguish reality and fantasy. Additionally those who may be suffering mental illness may be more suspect to imitate their violence.


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Re: Do video games influence [Re: RickS.] #13240039 08/08/19 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by RickS.
I blame politicians(both sides) and the media. They have done nothing but fan the flames for over three years now.

The "both sides" is very laughable.

Re: Do video games influence [Re: Bigbob_FTW] #13240041 08/08/19 11:42 AM
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Cause, no. Symptom, yes.


100% agree with this. Video games are ubiquitous and have been for three decades. Many mass shooters play violent video games because many people play video games in general.

The ones who play video games non-stop, never leave the house, etc already have anti-social tendencies. The games are a symptom, not a cause.


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Re: Do video games influence [Re: Tallgrass05] #13240043 08/08/19 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Tallgrass05
It's not video games, otherwise you'd see similar mass shootings in other countries. It's not a lack of God, otherwise you'd see similar mass shootings in other countries that are much less religious. It's ideology, encouragement, and easy access to guns.


Plenty of guns in the middle east and you don't see mass murders.


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Originally Posted by John175�
Originally Posted by Tallgrass05
It's not video games, otherwise you'd see similar mass shootings in other countries. It's not a lack of God, otherwise you'd see similar mass shootings in other countries that are much less religious. It's ideology, encouragement, and easy access to guns.


Plenty of guns in the middle east and you don't see mass murders.


Oh really? There’s no mass murders in the Middle East?

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Originally Posted by John175�
Originally Posted by Tallgrass05
It's not video games, otherwise you'd see similar mass shootings in other countries. It's not a lack of God, otherwise you'd see similar mass shootings in other countries that are much less religious. It's ideology, encouragement, and easy access to guns.


Plenty of guns in the middle east and you don't see mass murders.


Oh really? There’s no mass murders in the Middle East?


Not like this.


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Re: Do video games influence [Re: Duck_Hunter] #13240054 08/08/19 12:04 PM
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Cause, no. Symptom, yes.


100% agree with this. Video games are ubiquitous and have been for three decades. Many mass shooters play violent video games because many people play video games in general.

The ones who play video games non-stop, never leave the house, etc already have anti-social tendencies. The games are a symptom, not a cause.

I think you are on to something, this is my belief. If you fill a young mind with noting but killing, chaos, and total lack of concern for others, you think that is what life is about.

There is a correlation between video games, lack of family unit, social media bullying of an outcast youth and a few others.

Video games are not the problem like guns are not the problem, but the changes in society listed above have now led to these traumatic events.

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