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Re: Done with Fluoro [Re: jvc58dke] #13222208 07/22/19 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jvc58dke
not worth the risk/reward in my book in East Texas waters....


I think you might be right.


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Re: Done with Fluoro [Re: Mark Perry] #13222221 07/22/19 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Perry
I use what many consider a value priced line in Sunline Super Fluoro. Its inexpensive and is very easy to manage and performs exceptionally well.


Is that the one in the blue box Mark? I just looked on Amazon and they have just the super fluoro (blue box) and the FC sniper super flouro? Have you really noticed a dramatic increase in your catch rate? I'm not pro or con. Since I moved to the Austin area I have to fish lakes that have 5' -15' of visibility and my catch rates have gone down. Line type? Line size? Bait type? Bait size? Still figuring it out. I can still go to Fork and throw 20 # XT or 15 lb Big Game and whack em. Curious if there are verifiable studies on how bass perceive it visually.

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Re: Done with Fluoro [Re: fivebites] #13222225 07/22/19 06:28 PM
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I use what many consider a value priced line in Sunline Super Fluoro. Its inexpensive and is very easy to manage and performs exceptionally well.


Is that the one in the blue box Mark? I just looked on Amazon and they have just the super fluoro (blue box) and the FC sniper super flouro? Have you really noticed a dramatic increase in your catch rate? I'm not pro or con. Since I moved to the Austin area I have to fish lakes that have 5' -15' of visibility and my catch rates have gone down. Line type? Line size? Bait type? Bait size? Still figuring it out. I can still go to Fork and throw 20 # XT or 15 lb Big Game and whack em. Curious if there are verifiable studies on how bass perceive it visually.



I can tell you when I get wrapped up on rusty dock poles, timber or such that it holds up better than mono does for me. As I mentioned I would hate to fish without. It telegraphs the bottom and light bites better too. I am a fan. Some guys like fluoro, some dont. I do not use it for the visibility factor. It simply outperforms mono for me. I do not know of any studies. I just by my own personal experience with it.

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Sunline_Super_Fluorocarbon/descpage-SLSF2.html

Re: Done with Fluoro [Re: JacksonBean] #13222227 07/22/19 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JacksonBean
Originally Posted by jvc58dke
not worth the risk/reward in my book in East Texas waters....


I think you might be right.


Agree. I can only think of one lake in East Texas where Id tie on fluoro

Also agree with Mark that it telegraphs bites really well/better than any copoly or mono.
Definitely shines in weightless presentations
But, for me to use it more regularly, Id be retying and respooling more frequently than I want to do


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Re: Done with Fluoro [Re: jvc58dke] #13222238 07/22/19 06:35 PM
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I had issues flipping with braid in bushes and around wood. Braid cuts into the wood far easier than fluorocarbon does. On Lewisville I noticed a big improvement in my landing percentage by flipping bushes with 25# fluorocarbon instead of 70# braid. A lot of the fish would bite the bait on the fall and be around the base of the bush before I could set the hook. In nearly every case that braid dug into the bush and I'd lose the fish. Worse yet, I'd have to break off my tungsten weight because of how it was wrapped.

Re: Done with Fluoro [Re: jvc58dke] #13222314 07/22/19 08:11 PM
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I cant imagine not using floro know.. I was fishing a bridge and the pilings were covered with zebra muscles and I kept cutting my line in practice. So the next day I tried 17lb mono leader on braid and didnt have to worry about cutting my line, since I couldnt feel the bites anymore... I went back to floro and could feel the faint bites..

That was the tourney day that I ended up with almost 25 lbs I posted on here..

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Re: Done with Fluoro [Re: jvc58dke] #13222325 07/22/19 08:23 PM
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OH REALLY, user error huh? I bought 3 batches of FLouro and each one broke about 1 to 1.5 ft above the knot. 15, 17 qnd 20 lb spools NOT of the same batch. It was just NOT good line for me, so I gave it up for good and went back to McCoys. YOU tell me what I was doing wrong. It wasn't breaking in the knot, it was breaking above the knot. One broke on the 2nd cast. I think the MOST casts I got our of using it was 9, so I will not use it again. This was on 3 different purchase, not all at once. SO never again. Nuff said.


Tight lines, keep safe and good luck.

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Tight lines, keep safe and good luck.

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Re: Done with Fluoro [Re: Thad Rains] #13222330 07/22/19 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Thad Rains
OH REALLY, user error huh? I bought 3 batches of FLouro and each one broke about 1 to 1.5 ft above the knot. 15, 17 qnd 20 lb spools NOT of the same batch. It was just NOT good line for me, so I gave it up for good and went back to McCoys. YOU tell me what I was doing wrong. It wasn't breaking in the knot, it was breaking above the knot. One broke on the 2nd cast. I think the MOST casts I got our of using it was 9, so I will not use it again. This was on 3 different purchase, not all at once. SO never again. Nuff said.


Tight lines, keep safe and good luck.

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Well maybe the way you tied the knot on all 3 batches created bad spots above all 3 knots. There are plenty of knots you can tie with mono that will weaken and cause abrasion to flouro above the knot as you cinch it down.


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Re: Done with Fluoro [Re: jvc58dke] #13222331 07/22/19 08:38 PM
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I think what most people fail to understand is that fluoro is ultra brittle and will shatter due to shock such as a backlash or stretch such as pulling hard on a snag. While the line doesnt break during this shatter (a lot of times) the line is basically ruined. If you looked at that section under a microscope you would see that its structural integrity is highly compromised. This is why so many are breaking off during hook sets. This is also why you see pros respooling on the fly if a minnow so much as touches their line.

This for me is just one of many issues with flouro that keeps it as leader material for me. Casting distance fluoro vs braid is reason enough to keep fluoro off of my spool. To me it's like trying to cast wire. No thanks. FG or Alberto to Maxcuatro and so ends the headaches.

Re: Done with Fluoro [Re: mossyback75] #13222349 07/22/19 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mossyback75
I think what most people fail to understand is that fluoro is ultra brittle and will shatter due to shock such as a backlash or stretch such as pulling hard on a snag. While the line doesnt break during this shatter (a lot of times) the line is basically ruined.


My personal experience has been 100% different than this. Fluoro rarely if ever breaks for me on hooksett etc. It seems far from brittle to me.

Re: Done with Fluoro [Re: Mark Perry] #13222362 07/22/19 08:58 PM
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I think what most people fail to understand is that fluoro is ultra brittle and will shatter due to shock such as a backlash or stretch such as pulling hard on a snag. While the line doesnt break during this shatter (a lot of times) the line is basically ruined.


My personal experience has been 100% different than this. Fluoro rarely if ever breaks for me on hooksett etc. It seems far from brittle to me.


As long as you dont shock it is strong as nails. Once its shattered it becomes weak. All depends on peoples reel settings and how well they take care of the line.

Re: Done with Fluoro [Re: jvc58dke] #13222366 07/22/19 09:00 PM
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Flouro makes a heckuva leader for braid, All I use. Never broke.


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Re: Done with Fluoro [Re: mossyback75] #13222374 07/22/19 09:07 PM
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I think what most people fail to understand is that fluoro is ultra brittle and will shatter due to shock such as a backlash or stretch such as pulling hard on a snag. While the line doesnt break during this shatter (a lot of times) the line is basically ruined.


My personal experience has been 100% different than this. Fluoro rarely if ever breaks for me on hooksett etc. It seems far from brittle to me.


As long as you dont shock it is strong as nails. Once its shattered it becomes weak. All depends on peoples reel settings and how well they take care of the line.



Again that is your experience. Mine has been different. H99kets are shockloading.....no issues here. Heck I've had same fluoro on some reels since January. Still going strong.

Re: Done with Fluoro [Re: jvc58dke] #13222378 07/22/19 09:08 PM
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I've never actually used flouro... the co-polymer I use is flouro coated, does that count?




Re: Done with Fluoro [Re: Mark Perry] #13222388 07/22/19 09:15 PM
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I think what most people fail to understand is that fluoro is ultra brittle and will shatter due to shock such as a backlash or stretch such as pulling hard on a snag. While the line doesnt break during this shatter (a lot of times) the line is basically ruined.


My personal experience has been 100% different than this. Fluoro rarely if ever breaks for me on hooksett etc. It seems far from brittle to me.


As long as you dont shock it is strong as nails. Once its shattered it becomes weak. All depends on peoples reel settings and how well they take care of the line.



Again that is your experience. Mine has been different. H99kets are shockloading.....no issues here. Heck I've had same fluoro on some reels since January. Still going strong.


The rod absorbs 90% of any shock during a hookset. Straight pull shock from a backlash or pulling hard on a snag are different things. Not arguing....just saying. Microscoped after the (true) shock would prove me right.

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