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Re: We were in trouble on Cedar Creek/ HS State Tournament
[Re: buda13]
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05/14/19 03:21 AM
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YOU AND ONLY YOU are responsible for the people in your boat, not the tournament trail, tournament director, or anyone else. Think of it this way, what would you do in an emergency situation if you were just out fun fishing? Thats the same thing you should do in a tournament. Call emergency personnel, flag down another boat, or shoot a flare. Tournament trails dont provide emergency assistance for competitors. Best advise I can give is exchange numbers with fellow competitors or team mates and put together an emergency plan among yourselves. Yep
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Re: We were in trouble on Cedar Creek/ HS State Tournament
[Re: FishFAN]
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05/15/19 05:44 PM
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Dubee
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I'm curious how getting blown into rocks disabled your steering.
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Re: We were in trouble on Cedar Creek/ HS State Tournament
[Re: FishFAN]
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05/15/19 07:02 PM
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Douglas J
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I have never read the rules or been involved in the THSBA, but I will bet they have it printed somewhere that incase of an emergency dial 911. The TD, unless he has a boat with rescue capabilities and has the proper training, would only have "words of comfort" to offer you in an emergency.
#1 you chose to captain a team, #2 you assumed liability for all passengers on your vessel, #3 you could have checked the forecast for wind and wether and planned accordingly.
I have been involved in numerous boat rescue situations in this area and I can tell you when all the facts come in most of the time a little preplanning and prep would have eliminated the majority of these situations.
Please take this experience and look inward to see what you can do in the future to be better prepared and have an "emergency action plan" in place for yourself and your passengers.
If you feel you are in danger please call 911 immediately, please know there can be a lot of "lag time" responding to incidents like these and seconds count in emergencies on the water.
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Re: We were in trouble on Cedar Creek/ HS State Tournament
[Re: Douglas J]
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05/15/19 07:09 PM
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I have never read the rules or been involved in the THSBA, but I will bet they have it printed somewhere that incase of an emergency dial 911. The TD, unless he has a boat with rescue capabilities and has the proper training, would only have "words of comfort" to offer you in an emergency.
#1 you chose to captain a team, #2 you assumed liability for all passengers on your vessel, #3 you could have checked the forecast for wind and wether and planned accordingly.
I have been involved in numerous boat rescue situations in this area and I can tell you when all the facts come in most of the time a little preplanning and prep would have eliminated the majority of these situations.
Please take this experience and look inward to see what you can do in the future to be better prepared and have an "emergency action plan" in place for yourself and your passengers.
If you feel you are in danger please call 911 immediately, please know there can be a lot of "lag time" responding to incidents like these and seconds count in emergencies on the water. Yes sir. It is the last sentence in the very first paragraph BEFORE rule #1 even starts. Has not changed in 6 years.
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Re: We were in trouble on Cedar Creek/ HS State Tournament
[Re: Douglas J]
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05/15/19 07:11 PM
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Ken Starling
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Very first line 2018-2019 Texas High School Bass Association The Texas High School Bass Association, Board of Directors and Team Advisors expect strict adherence to the following rules by all Student Anglers and Boat Captains. In case of an emergency, please call 911 first, and then notify the tournament director. I have never read the rules or been involved in the THSBA, but I will bet they have it printed somewhere that incase of an emergency dial 911. The TD, unless he has a boat with rescue capabilities and has the proper training, would only have "words of comfort" to offer you in an emergency.
#1 you chose to captain a team, #2 you assumed liability for all passengers on your vessel, #3 you could have checked the forecast for wind and wether and planned accordingly.
I have been involved in numerous boat rescue situations in this area and I can tell you when all the facts come in most of the time a little preplanning and prep would have eliminated the majority of these situations.
Please take this experience and look inward to see what you can do in the future to be better prepared and have an "emergency action plan" in place for yourself and your passengers.
If you feel you are in danger please call 911 immediately, please know there can be a lot of "lag time" responding to incidents like these and seconds count in emergencies on the water.
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Re: We were in trouble on Cedar Creek/ HS State Tournament
[Re: Tim Haugh]
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05/15/19 07:13 PM
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Douglas J
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I have never read the rules or been involved in the THSBA, but I will bet they have it printed somewhere that incase of an emergency dial 911. The TD, unless he has a boat with rescue capabilities and has the proper training, would only have "words of comfort" to offer you in an emergency.
#1 you chose to captain a team, #2 you assumed liability for all passengers on your vessel, #3 you could have checked the forecast for wind and wether and planned accordingly.
I have been involved in numerous boat rescue situations in this area and I can tell you when all the facts come in most of the time a little preplanning and prep would have eliminated the majority of these situations.
Please take this experience and look inward to see what you can do in the future to be better prepared and have an "emergency action plan" in place for yourself and your passengers.
If you feel you are in danger please call 911 immediately, please know there can be a lot of "lag time" responding to incidents like these and seconds count in emergencies on the water. Yes sir. It is the last sentence in the very first paragraph BEFORE rule #1 even starts. Has not changed in 6 years. I figured as much
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Re: We were in trouble on Cedar Creek/ HS State Tournament
[Re: FishFAN]
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05/15/19 11:10 PM
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Teaching the kids to pass blame? Its the TDs fault youre too inexperienced to safely maneuver a boat? They should have dropped everything and came to the rescue? They didnt answer the phone on the second attempt to cry for help?
911!!!! Thats what its there for. 911 saves womens SUVs from flooded intersections all the time.
I cant believe you had the nerve to have one of the kids call for help for you....and then expect them to put even more civilians in danger to try and save your boat. You shouldnt have a boat.
Just my opinions. Harsh as they may be.
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Re: We were in trouble on Cedar Creek/ HS State Tournament
[Re: FishFAN]
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05/15/19 11:31 PM
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It's not often that I agree with u completely , Steez. You hit this one on the head 100% To the OP, why did you "get in trouble" on the lake? Perhaps I missed your explanation? How does a 22' Triton end up sideways on the rocks? Did the outboard malfunction?
Last edited by fouzman; 05/15/19 11:37 PM. Reason: more questions
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Re: We were in trouble on Cedar Creek/ HS State Tournament
[Re: FishFAN]
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05/15/19 11:36 PM
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C130
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A lot of these clubs, if not most, are privately ran, 501C3, non profit clubs. Its a matter of time before someone trying to do the right thing and oversee a club for the kids is sued due to an accident. I dont know what the answer is and Im not bashing high school fishing at all but its growing so fast its something to consider if overseeing a club.
I required every club member take a TPWD approved boater safety course before they could fish. That alone certainly wouldnt prevent an accident but I thought it was something that might provide some basic boating knowledge. A lot of these kids have never fished out of a boat, some boat captains are brand new to boating. The tournament organizers cant possibly oversee and police every club so its up to the clubs and club advisors who I highly doubt have any insurance.
To the OP, give some details and maybe some can offer help or advice. Every boater was new at some point, most all of us have made some decisions on the water that could have ended bad. Hopefully it was a learning experience, most of us have had plenty of those.
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Re: We were in trouble on Cedar Creek/ HS State Tournament
[Re: fouzman]
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05/15/19 11:39 PM
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fouzman
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It's not often that I agree with u completely , Steez. You hit this one on the head 100% To the OP, why did you "get in trouble" on the lake? Perhaps I missed your explanation? How does a 22' Triton end up sideways on the rocks? Did the outboard malfunction? Bump
"Things turn out best for those who make the best of the way things turn out" - Zachary Troy Schrah - a young man with vision far beyond his years.
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Re: We were in trouble on Cedar Creek/ HS State Tournament
[Re: fouzman]
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05/15/19 11:49 PM
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It's not often that I agree with u completely , Steez. You hit this one on the head 100% To the OP, why did you "get in trouble" on the lake? Perhaps I missed your explanation? How does a 22' Triton end up sideways on the rocks? Did the outboard malfunction? Bump I don't think the op is going to answer any of our questions.
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Re: We were in trouble on Cedar Creek/ HS State Tournament
[Re: Dubee]
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05/15/19 11:56 PM
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C130
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It's not often that I agree with u completely , Steez. You hit this one on the head 100% To the OP, why did you "get in trouble" on the lake? Perhaps I missed your explanation? How does a 22' Triton end up sideways on the rocks? Did the outboard malfunction? Bump I don't think the op is going to answer any of our questions. If he thinks this crowd is tough he should go over to the BBC lounge, I cant imagine what would be said there.
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Re: We were in trouble on Cedar Creek/ HS State Tournament
[Re: FishFAN]
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05/16/19 02:44 PM
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Dubee
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I guess he didn't get the response he was hoping for. I just want to know what happened to his steering
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Re: We were in trouble on Cedar Creek/ HS State Tournament
[Re: Dubee]
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05/16/19 07:01 PM
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Douglas J
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I guess he didn't get the response he was hoping for. I just want to know what happened to his steering I want to know if it did malfunction did he keep up regular maintenance on his vessel? Most mishaps on the water are a product of poor decisions and/or neglect of the vessel. Very rarely are there true "accidents". If you are going to venture out on the water, learn what do when things go wrong. If you spend enough time on the water you will have some type of incident. And when you do it's usually 100% your own fault. Not the TD of the tournament you are participating in at the time. Basically be responsible for you, your passengers and your vessel.
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Re: We were in trouble on Cedar Creek/ HS State Tournament
[Re: FishFAN]
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05/16/19 07:33 PM
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C130
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We had a pretty small high school club and I think the most boats we ever had on the water at one time was maybe 4 or 5. Even with these small numbers we had some pretty interesting things happen over the last 3 years, luckily no injuries. One guy, who had constant boat issues every single tournament, sent out a group text we had set up needing help. Motor wouldn't run, they were on Conroe and it was rough, and he was ready to burn the boat. He had to be towed in to the marina. One of the kids noticed the dad had left the fuel cap open and water had been coming over the back and going in the fuel tank. One boat had a dead battery on Rayburn and couldn't start his motor. One boat ran over a 100 yards onto a sandbar.
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