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Re: Tow Vehicle woes [Re: Bass Buster1] #13128348
04/19/19 07:50 PM
04/19/19 07:50 PM
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Caddo Mills, TX
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I had a 2002 Ford F150. Transmission went out at 24/K miles. Ford replaced it under warentee. Service guy told me i should not tow with it. Said it was hard on the transmission. Last Ford I ever bought when their service people recommend not using it for towing. Have had two Tundra's since then with no problems from either of them.

Re: Tow Vehicle woes [Re: Bass Buster1] #13128380
04/19/19 08:37 PM
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This happens all the time! Heck I bought a 2018 kia forte with 16 miles on it drove to galveston and on the way home motor started misfiring like check engine light flashing and everything so bad it hydrolocked itself! This car was less then 300 miles on it and one week old yet it had taken the dealership more than 30 days to get me my car back, which sucked because I had to uber to work $20 a day.

Re: Tow Vehicle woes [Re: Allen Bass Fisher] #13128416
04/19/19 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Allen Bass Fisher
I had a 2002 Ford F150. Transmission went out at 24/K miles. Ford replaced it under warentee. Service guy told me i should not tow with it. Said it was hard on the transmission. Last Ford I ever bought when their service people recommend not using it for towing. Have had two Tundra's since then with no problems from either of them.


Our company was notorious for buying the cheapest version available which was always an XL V6 with 5 speed standards in them.

They were rated to tow 3800 lbs IIRC and they clutches went out regularly.

In this case they were not made to tow with and you could tell from the premature failures.

Now that isn't the case anymore with any of their transmissions. coolio


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Re: Tow Vehicle woes [Re: Bass Buster1] #13128418
04/19/19 09:54 PM
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I was fishing with James Biggs and he's pulling with the Colorado diesel 4 banger and pulled like a champ. Gets 30 mpg on the highway so not bad. Now if only I could fish like James.

Re: Tow Vehicle woes [Re: Bass Buster1] #13128749
04/20/19 10:11 AM
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I personally find that strange, most MFG's offer 100,000 mile warranty on the power train at the least! I would question it. I would!!!!!

Re: Tow Vehicle woes [Re: SoCal Tom] #13130209
04/22/19 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by SoCal Tom
Originally Posted by Bobby Milam
Toyota is American made so why would choosing one disappoint you?


Because no matter where they are made, (cars are made all over the world at this point) the companies PROFITS go overseas. I will never buy a vehicle made by a company that is not based in the USA. I wish more people in this country had this point of view. Let the Japanese people buy Japanese cars put together in the USA.


GM and Chrysler lost me when they screwed over the American taxpayers and their bondholders. I would consider buying a Ford still, but will probably never own another GM even though I'm very fond of the Corvette.

Re: Tow Vehicle woes [Re: Greg W] #13130218
04/22/19 05:21 AM
04/22/19 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Greg W
I was fishing with James Biggs and he's pulling with the Colorado diesel 4 banger and pulled like a champ. Gets 30 mpg on the highway so not bad. Now if only I could fish like James.


I am a full time guide. I tow every day. 99% of my miles are towing my 26ft large bay boat which weighs 6500 pounds. My first choice tow vehicle is BMW x5 with 3L diesel. I get 36mpg empty and 13-14 towing that boat at 70mph. Wife got hers first. I towed my boat with it once and sold the chevy 3/4 ton as fast as possible. It tows, stops, handles and is so much more stable than that truck ever thought about. Does everything better. Again i am a full time guide on the water 250 days a year. Heres a pic of my boat, my buddies 26ft twin engine offshore boat, and wifes 7'10" tall two horse trailer for her giant 18 hands jumper horses. One of the best tow vehicles for up to 7500 pounds i have ever had. I have 85k miles on mine. Wife has 95k miles on hers.

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Re: Tow Vehicle woes [Re: 94sktr] #13130398
04/22/19 01:51 PM
04/22/19 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 94sktr
I have a brand new truck and it has a hesitation/miss and was told it was made like that. I have talked to guys that have had same issue and dealers won't do anything. The other guys payed a independent to reprogram the computer. Kinda irritating when its under warranty and to get it fixed you have to pay someone.


We just got rid of a mid size gm suv with a 3.6l for a miss under slight load! They had it 7 times and couldn't fix it!

Now i swear our new tahoe with the 5.7l is doing the same thing!!!!

This may be my last gm vehicle. But no way i'm going with the gas mileage of Toyota's.

Re: Tow Vehicle woes [Re: Sgrem] #13130465
04/22/19 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Sgrem
Originally Posted by Greg W
I was fishing with James Biggs and he's pulling with the Colorado diesel 4 banger and pulled like a champ. Gets 30 mpg on the highway so not bad. Now if only I could fish like James.


I am a full time guide. I tow every day. 99% of my miles are towing my 26ft large bay boat which weighs 6500 pounds. My first choice tow vehicle is BMW x5 with 3L diesel. I get 36mpg empty and 13-14 towing that boat at 70mph. Wife got hers first. I towed my boat with it once and sold the chevy 3/4 ton as fast as possible. It tows, stops, handles and is so much more stable than that truck ever thought about. Does everything better. Again i am a full time guide on the water 250 days a year. Heres a pic of my boat, my buddies 26ft twin engine offshore boat, and wifes 7'10" tall two horse trailer for her giant 18 hands jumper horses. One of the best tow vehicles for up to 7500 pounds i have ever had. I have 85k miles on mine. Wife has 95k miles on hers.


Do you post on THT? I think I saw one of your posts there some time ago.
I have considered an X5 and sell my Dodge Cummins. Its reliable but a 2000 and does not get the mpg yours does and I don't really need a truck anymore.
I've looked at a couple used and done some research on BMW forums. The biggest problem I've seen is the DEF system failures and BMW has a deal to replace them on the problem vehicles.

Re: Tow Vehicle woes [Re: Dug71] #13130494
04/22/19 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dug71
Originally Posted by 94sktr
I have a brand new truck and it has a hesitation/miss and was told it was made like that. I have talked to guys that have had same issue and dealers won't do anything. The other guys payed a independent to reprogram the computer. Kinda irritating when its under warranty and to get it fixed you have to pay someone.


We just got rid of a mid size gm suv with a 3.6l for a miss under slight load! They had it 7 times and couldn't fix it!

Now i swear our new tahoe with the 5.7l is doing the same thing!!!!

This may be my last gm vehicle. But no way i'm going with the gas mileage of Toyota's.


5.3L here.

Re: Tow Vehicle woes [Re: 94sktr] #13130704
04/22/19 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 94sktr
Originally Posted by Dug71
Originally Posted by 94sktr
I have a brand new truck and it has a hesitation/miss and was told it was made like that. I have talked to guys that have had same issue and dealers won't do anything. The other guys payed a independent to reprogram the computer. Kinda irritating when its under warranty and to get it fixed you have to pay someone.


We just got rid of a mid size gm suv with a 3.6l for a miss under slight load! They had it 7 times and couldn't fix it!

Now i swear our new tahoe with the 5.7l is doing the same thing!!!!

This may be my last gm vehicle. But no way i'm going with the gas mileage of Toyota's.


5.3L here.


sorry it is a 5.3 also. too much yota talk i guess. lol

Re: Tow Vehicle woes [Re: Bass Buster1] #13130738
04/22/19 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Bass Buster1
I ask this question here because I am in this area the most.

I have a 2017 American made truck(not going to name brand or dealership as yet) with 63,000 miles on it, my commute is long, so lots of miles on my vehicles. I am driving home two weeks ago this Friday and the transmission goes out on I35. Took it to the dealership they give me a loaner truck and say I can not haul or tow anything with it?? They then take over a week to get it into the tranny shop to evaluate it. The torque converter has come apart inside and the tranny is full of metal. I find out trucks no longer have 100,000 mile power train warranties, they are now 60,000 miles so I am 3,000 over but it is a two year old $50,000 truck. My question...should it be fixed under warranty or should I have to replace what I think is obviously a defective tranny? So far they say I have to pay for it and should have bought the extended warranty. I have the money and can fix it but it is a principal thing to me, stand behind your brand! Now waiting to here back from a senior level case worker for the manufacture. What say ye, my responsibility or manufacture?


I would call 1800-GM-CARES
This worked for me in the past. Tell them your story and where you took the vehicle. They bought my ac control unit for me post warranty because it was just out.


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Re: Tow Vehicle woes [Re: Bass Buster1] #13130857
04/22/19 09:17 PM
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Call the manufacturer explain the problems you are having. I bet they do something for you. Anything is better then nothing. I hear this from the dealership all the time.. They cant do anything but the manufacturer can..


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Re: Tow Vehicle woes [Re: Champion1] #13131115
04/23/19 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Champion1
You guys need to buy a Tundra!



Might be a Tundra they are made here.


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Re: Tow Vehicle woes [Re: Bass Buster1] #13131237
04/23/19 03:21 AM
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Manufacturer did nothing after I called them and the dealership called them. I am picking my truck up in the morning after more than two weeks and a lot of arguing. It is costing me $4300 out of pocket and they say that is a deal and big concessions on the dealerships part. 2017 Z71 Chevy LT purchased at Moritz and being serviced at James Wood in Denton. I will be shopping for a different truck as soon as I can reasonably afford to do so!


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