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 Re: Input needed: What matters most for Crappie Fishing? Line, lure type. colors
[Re: Skunked Again Fishing]
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04/20/19 03:43 PM
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Tim YOU MUST BE A engineer or pshysist???? 
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Re: Input needed: What matters most for Crappie Fishing? Line, lure type. colors
[Re: Lazy Ike]
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04/20/19 04:51 PM
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Skunked Again Fishing
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Tim YOU MUST BE A engineer or pshysist???? I'm so busted. You should keep that a secret, or I'll lose alot of credibility around here. 
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Re: Input needed: What matters most for Crappie Fishing? Line, lure type. colors
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04/20/19 04:56 PM
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LIKE JERRY SAID , Keep it pretty simple, just go!!!! like others have said, 1 K I S S & 2 Pro Anglers rods,lol good stuff, GET EM JERRY. Agreed that the end setup is simple; but from all the products out there, they're not making it simple for a beginner. They're more interested in the mula mula than the angler's success. Tim
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Re: Input needed: What matters most for Crappie Fishing? Line, lure type. colors
[Re: Skunked Again Fishing]
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04/20/19 08:35 PM
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This sounds like cabin fever talk, go out and go fishing. Keep a log of what you do and what works. Best way to learn anything.
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Re: Input needed: What matters most for Crappie Fishing? Line, lure type. colors
[Re: Skunked Again Fishing]
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04/22/19 05:11 PM
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Guys, it's not the jig, it's the jigger most of the time. You can help a little with good equipment but nothing beats time on the water, Sure you feel better and look good with a bunch of high priced stuff but an old guy with 60 years experience and a ten dollar rod will still beat you most of the time. Keep it simple and watch and learn. Go a lot. If you only fish once a month on average you will never be a great crappie fisherman. But you can still enjoy when you do get to go.
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Re: Input needed: What matters most for Crappie Fishing? Line, lure type. colors
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04/22/19 06:35 PM
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Guys, it's not the jig, it's the jigger most of the time. You can help a little with good equipment but nothing beats time on the water, Sure you feel better and look good with a bunch of high priced stuff but an old guy with 60 years experience and a ten dollar rod will still beat you most of the time. Keep it simple and watch and learn. Go a lot. If you only fish once a month on average you will never be a great crappie fisherman. But you can still enjoy when you do get to go.
Agreed, the old saying holds true: it's the 'shooter', not the arrow". Some of the best fishermen/women I've met carried very small tackle boxes.... Tim
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Re: Input needed: What matters most for Crappie Fishing? Line, lure type. colors
[Re: Skunked Again Fishing]
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04/22/19 06:46 PM
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Chris Richardson
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There are many factors that contribute to the catch rate for Crappie. I'm going to do a pseudo scientific study on a brushpile with Livescope to narrow it down.
Here's the complication. In a fully factorial experiment, every factor added doubles the number of experiments. What? Huh? Meaning: if you have 2 factors such as line size and line type, you need to have 4 setups. Add 2 color lures and now you'll need 8 setups. Add another factor like jig head size and you'll need 16 setups. It gets huge really quick.
So, we have to be selective in what is studied by starting off simple by studying only 2 factors at a time. I'm going to sit on top of a Crappie filled brushpile and randomly put each of them down and note the fish behavior on Livescope. Here's what I'm thinking:
Experiment 1. 4 setups:
-1 lure (1/8oz plain jighead with a soft plastic)
-2 linetypes (Flouro vs mono)
-2 line sizes (small and large for each)
Once the superior setup is determined (if it shows a difference), I'll take the line type/size and doe Experiment 2.
Need your input for this one. Suggest the luretypes and colors for this
Experiment 2: 5 setups
-1 line (as selected from Experiment 1)
-1 setup is control from Experiement 1
-2 luretypes
-2 lure colors
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I'll keep adding experiments until I can get to a point of satifisfaction on what really matters to catch Crappie. Your input is greatly appreciated.
Tim I would love to review your final DOE and test method validation strategy. How will you establish a control? Sure hope the fish read and are trained to your protocol  I'm only kidding, but I get my fill of crunching data at my real job. Fishing is my break from all that. There is a special mystery in not seeing exactly whats going on underneath the water and I hope that never changes. I believe this effort will result in myth busting rather than establishing rules. Interesting effort for sure. Good Luck! I'll chime in with my thoughts later when I have more time.
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Re: Input needed: What matters most for Crappie Fishing? Line, lure type. colors
[Re: Skunked Again Fishing]
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04/22/19 06:59 PM
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I would love to review your final DOE and test method validation strategy. How will you establish a control? Sure hope the fish read and are trained to your protocol roflmao I'm only kidding, but I get my fill of crunching data at my real job. Fishing is my break from all that. There is a special mystery in not seeing exactly whats going on underneath the water and I hope that never changes. I believe this effort will result in myth busting rather than establishing rules. Interesting effort for sure. Good Luck! I'll chime in with my thoughts later when I have more time. -------------------- There are only a few of us who can recite DOE validation strategy, controls, and data analysis. It's a myth busting exercise more than anything else.... And also bait to bring out the technical geeks and engineers out there Tim
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