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Re: MLF - “Obey the law” rule
[Re: RKT]
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02/15/19 01:18 AM
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Bruce Allen
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how often have you pulled into a covered boat dock or house to avoid getting struck by lightning? Not stepping onto the dock, but floating inside.
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Re: MLF - “Obey the law” rule
[Re: Skeeter man ZX225]
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02/15/19 01:29 AM
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Dubee
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When they were on Roberts, one of them was fishing next to and all around the discharge structure which clearly states stay 300 feet away. But it's not buoyed off by the state. What if the marina painted stay back 300 ft
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Re: MLF - “Obey the law” rule
[Re: RKT]
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02/15/19 01:50 AM
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Walls
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In Texas the structure of the boat dock is private property. The water under the boat dock is public. Someone getting on your boat dock is basically the same as someone getting on your porch of your house. But it's not Criminal Trespass unless they have notice that it is forbidden, or have been asked to leave and do not.
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Re: MLF - “Obey the law” rule
[Re: Walls]
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02/15/19 02:36 AM
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RKT
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In Texas the structure of the boat dock is private property. The water under the boat dock is public. Someone getting on your boat dock is basically the same as someone getting on your porch of your house. But it's not Criminal Trespass unless they have notice that it is forbidden, or have been asked to leave and do not. That’s probably why we see so many boathouses and docks with no trespassing signs on them.
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Re: MLF - “Obey the law” rule
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02/15/19 02:43 AM
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In Texas the structure of the boat dock is private property. The water under the boat dock is public. Someone getting on your boat dock is basically the same as someone getting on your porch of your house. Who regulates the size of the boat house/dock? What’s to prevent them from building a 10k square foot dock? Seems as the grey area here is where I’m lost. I have never heard of an river authority or lake authority that would allow that big of a dock for private use. On the lake my place is on I think it is 2000 sq. Foot and no more than 150 foot from shore. As far as private, yes a dock is considered private property in Texas and it is not ok to get out on it to land a fish or retrieve a lure. I have thought the same about obey laws watching MLF before.
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Re: MLF - “Obey the law” rule
[Re: Bruce Allen]
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02/15/19 02:45 AM
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SteezMacQueen
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how often have you pulled into a covered boat dock or house to avoid getting struck by lightning? Not stepping onto the dock, but floating inside. more than once. For sure. I’ve even fished under the dock while waiting out the lightning.
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Re: MLF - “Obey the law” rule
[Re: RKT]
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02/15/19 03:25 AM
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bossman
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So my lure is on your dock, and if I take two steps onto your dock it is trespassing? Hmmm, hate for my sons soccer ball to roll two steps into your yard. Sometimes I got to just shake my head on this forum.
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Re: MLF - “Obey the law” rule
[Re: SteezMacQueen]
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02/15/19 03:30 AM
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SC-001
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Not sure that a boat dock, on a public lake is really considered private property. I think homeowners are simply lucky that no one squawts on the thing.
^THIS, I've always seen game wardens side with the angler over disputes too. Homeowners don't want the hassle, don't build a dock on a public lake in texas, better move to louisiana.
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Re: MLF - “Obey the law” rule
[Re: bossman]
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02/15/19 04:14 AM
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WAWI
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So my lure is on your dock, and if I take two steps onto your dock it is trespassing? Hmmm, hate for my sons soccer ball to roll two steps into your yard. Sometimes I got to just shake my head on this forum. kinda my thoughts, the thought process that even leads the op to come up with such nonsense as this whole criminal trespass business is just a mystery to me.
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Re: MLF - “Obey the law” rule
[Re: RKT]
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02/15/19 04:36 AM
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Curtbass
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I would think, if retrieving your personal property (lure) & no criminal intent during the act, then no grounds for criminal trespassing exists. Landing a fish would fall under same condition, as long as cast originated from the boat. If they're not DQ'd by TD for it, who cares? Apparently, the " no leaving boat during tournament competition rule isn't there.
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Re: MLF - “Obey the law” rule
[Re: WAWI]
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02/15/19 05:06 AM
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M. Alexander
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So my lure is on your dock, and if I take two steps onto your dock it is trespassing? Hmmm, hate for my sons soccer ball to roll two steps into your yard. Sometimes I got to just shake my head on this forum. kinda my thoughts, the thought process that even leads the op to come up with such nonsense as this whole criminal trespass business is just a mystery to me. Yup
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Re: MLF - “Obey the law” rule
[Re: WAWI]
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02/15/19 05:08 AM
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Bee'z
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So my lure is on your dock, and if I take two steps onto your dock it is trespassing? Hmmm, hate for my sons soccer ball to roll two steps into your yard. Sometimes I got to just shake my head on this forum. kinda my thoughts, the thought process that even leads the op to come up with such nonsense as this whole criminal trespass business is just a mystery to me. I cannot claim criminal trespass unless they get in the tiki hut at my place. That is the only part we own. The dock is COE.
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Re: MLF - “Obey the law” rule
[Re: bossman]
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02/15/19 06:12 AM
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Bobby Milam
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So my lure is on your dock, and if I take two steps onto your dock it is trespassing? Hmmm, hate for my sons soccer ball to roll two steps into your yard. Sometimes I got to just shake my head on this forum. Is it marked with no trespassing signs? If so then yes, you are trespassing. If it is not marked then no you are not unless they have asked you to leave and you failed to comply or had previously been warned by the owner not to trespass the you can walk over and retrieve your lure. About the same as a salesman knocking on your front door. he did nothing wrong unless you had previously warned him he was not allowed on your property.
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Re: MLF - “Obey the law” rule
[Re: RKT]
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02/15/19 05:26 PM
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Bass Buster1
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On another "follow the law" thing since they release the fish it seems they set the size limit and don't care what the law is. In other words if a fish is too short to be legal or is a slot fish on a given water body, but weighs a pound does it count?
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Re: MLF - “Obey the law” rule
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02/15/19 05:32 PM
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fouzman
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On another "follow the law" thing since they release the fish it seems they set the size limit and don't care what the law is. In other words if a fish is too short to be legal or is a slot fish on a given water body, but weighs a pound does it count? Yes
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