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MLF - “Obey the law” rule #13063250 02/14/19 11:38 PM
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All tournaments that I have ever fished have a rule (usually the first rule listed) that says obey all state and local laws. Does MLF not have this rule? Guys are leaving their boats to get on peoples docks and private bridges to land fish and then get a 3 minute penalty. In doing so they are committing Criminal Trespass. Any tournament I have ever been a part of that would lead to a DQ.

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Are docks and these bridges always considered Private Property? I know in Texas the structure itself can be considered private, but is that the case in all states? Do we know if MLF worked with the lakes or local jurisdictions to get "permission" for the purpose of their tournament? Maybe there is a rider/waiver of certain property claims during tournament hours!


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Re: MLF - “Obey the law” rule [Re: RKT] #13063268 02/14/19 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RKT
All tournaments that I have ever fished have a rule (usually the first rule listed) that says obey all state and local laws. Does MLF not have this rule? Guys are leaving their boats to get on peoples docks and private bridges to land fish and then get a 3 minute penalty. In doing so they are committing Criminal Trespass. Any tournament I have ever been a part of that would lead to a DQ.


Just playing Devil's advocate here, but is it Criminal Trespass in Texas if it is not posted? I honestly do not know.

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Quick google search;

(a) A person commits an offense if the person enters or remains on or in property of another, including residential land, agricultural land, a recreational vehicle park, a building, or an aircraft or other vehicle, without effective consent and the person:

(1) had notice that the entry was forbidden;

or

(2) received notice to depart but failed to do so.

So if it's not posted and no one is there to tell them to leave, it's not criminal trespass is what I'm reading. Right? Wrong?


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Not sure that a boat dock, on a public lake is really considered private property. I think homeowners are simply lucky that no one squawts on the thing.

I know as a beach front homeowner, at SanLuis pass, that the beach is my front yard. I cannot expect anyone to not pass foot through it. In fact, if the coastline changes and erodes it, or even my home, it’s my loss. My loss only. Absolutely no recourse on my behalf.


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Thanks for posting that. Had no idea about the purple paint and glad I learned something today. banana

Re: MLF - “Obey the law” rule [Re: RKT] #13063295 02/15/19 12:21 AM
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In Texas the structure of the boat dock is private property. The water under the boat dock is public. Someone getting on your boat dock is basically the same as someone getting on your porch of your house.

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Originally Posted by RKT
In Texas the structure of the boat dock is private property. The water under the boat dock is public. Someone getting on your boat dock is basically the same as someone getting on your porch of your house.

Makes sense. I can keep beach goers off my deck, if they can walk right under my house and I can’t do anything to prevent it, because it would block access to the beach and water.

So, I guess I could Powerpole down in a boat slip, as long as I’m not physically touching the structure?


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In Texas the structure of the boat dock is private property. The water under the boat dock is public. Someone getting on your boat dock is basically the same as someone getting on your porch of your house.


Who regulates the size of the boat house/dock? What’s to prevent them from building a 10k square foot dock? Seems as the grey area here is where I’m lost.


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Originally Posted by RKT
In Texas the structure of the boat dock is private property. The water under the boat dock is public. Someone getting on your boat dock is basically the same as someone getting on your porch of your house.


Yes but people enter your front porch area all the time and are not guilty of the criminal trespass you speak of, the mail man, ups, amazon, some little girl selling girl scout cookies, jehovah witness and mormons..... I bet none of these have ever been charged with criminal trespass.

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Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen
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In Texas the structure of the boat dock is private property. The water under the boat dock is public. Someone getting on your boat dock is basically the same as someone getting on your porch of your house.


Who regulates the size of the boat house/dock? What’s to prevent them from building a 10k square foot dock? Seems as the grey area here is where I’m lost.


On Conroe it's the San Jacinto River Authority. You see the SJRA numbered tag on all the docks.

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In Texas the structure of the boat dock is private property. The water under the boat dock is public. Someone getting on your boat dock is basically the same as someone getting on your porch of your house.


Who regulates the size of the boat house/dock? What’s to prevent them from building a 10k square foot dock? Seems as the grey area here is where I’m lost.


In this case it would be the San Jacinto River Authority. Depends on who is over each individual lake.

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In Texas the structure of the boat dock is private property. The water under the boat dock is public. Someone getting on your boat dock is basically the same as someone getting on your porch of your house.


Yes but people enter your front porch area all the time and are not guilty of the criminal trespass you speak of, the mail man, ups, amazon, some little girl selling girl scout cookies, jehovah witness and mormons..... I bet none of these have ever been charged with criminal trespass.


This is what I think also if someone walks across your yard or something you just don't file charges on them,

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When they were on Roberts, one of them was fishing next to and all around the discharge structure which clearly states stay 300 feet away.

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