I heard that Toyota challenged the ad and it has been pulled. Apparently the claim was based on some very selective data that GM sponsored. I did not believe it anyway so it did not influence me.

I'm tired of their commercials.

+1, they could at least have some decent looking chicks in them. I guess if they did they people would not believe they are real people. Also, they bearded dude is getting to be annoying.

If they pulled every false or misleading ad, the screen would be black by this afternoon.

What makes you think they are not? My Chevy made it 200,000 without a single repair.

and that proves...nothing.

Don't leave out there would be no political ads. Because all those ****** ******** are lying.

If you can't be the best, smear the best.

Those "Little bit country and little bit rock n roll" commercials are AWFUL..... such a beating during the football games!!

Who has that tailgate commercial, with nah nah hey hey goodbye, i hate them a lot

I like the progressive ad making fun of the ads

I like you liking the progressive ad making fun of the ads.

I got a kick out of their ad showing the new tailgate that drops down slowly on their 2017 models. My 2011 Tundra has that on it as a standard feature. Shows just how far GM is behind Toyota.

Except gas mileage.

and price.

Well you get what you pay for and no trips to the shop ever except regular maintenance. Same on the wife's 2008 Forerunner with 126,000 miles. Sorry but Toyota can't be beat for realibility and resale value.

we'll disagree about reliability, but resale is a non-starter for me. I drive them till the wheels fall off.

I thought the title said �Chevy most reliable AND pulled�. I was going to agree.

I like the if �real people� ads were real life videos on YouTube.

I need a Chevy for this. It's the only one that would work.

Yep, and did you notice that several trucks have lift kits. Probably crappy spacer lifts but they are modded

Well as embarrassing as it may be, and although I love my F150 dearly, here is a photo of some chrome tow hooks on the front of it. I always thought they were for Chevies to pull me out, but I guess it will have to be a Tundra now.

From the Detroit News yesterday

But J.D. Power's 2018 dependability rankings, which are more similar to the study Chevy commissioned for its reliability ad in that it looks at 2015 model year vehicles, ranked Chevrolet above Toyota, Honda and Ford.

They ran it about 15 minutes ago. Someone didn�t get the memo.

Well you get what you pay for and no trips to the shop ever except regular maintenance. Same on the wife's 2008 Forerunner with 126,000 miles. Sorry but Toyota can't be beat for realibility and resale value.
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Has this actually ever happened to anyone? If so, how fast were you going and was it on a freeway or a bad place like Arlington?

As far as price goes. Price a Tundra loaded then go price a Chevy. The Chevy will be 3-5 thousand more. That's a lot of gas.

Just saw it so they didn't get the memo!

The one I saw a few weeks ago had some weird disclaimer. It was something along the lines of..... According to a recent Chevy owners poll, Chevy is the most reliable blah blah blah...

I am a GM man. Actually worked for their IT department for years. Still pulling my boat with a '03 pickup. Not one issue. Brake shoes ..... change the oil ..... No problem.

�I heard...� - from who?????? Inquiring minds want to know. Scrap that source for sure!! Just saw it twice in last 5 minutes.

I get that people love their brand of truck and I get that Toyota probably has fewer issues. The problem I have is that if I wanted to get 1%? fewer issues, I'd have to drive a Toyota. Not worth it to me.

Saw it last night!

It was a rediculous claim and poor decision made by someone in their marketing department, but I still like my Chevys.

Nice collection there JP!

The bottom one is a 1998 Z71.

Look at all that nasty chrome. I have black ones on mine for Fords and Chevy's

I wish I had those. Mine didn't come with them. You had to go up to a lariet to get them.

I wish one was an open hook like I had on my Tacomas.

I like the Gieco "Tiny House" commercial.

Toyota and Chevy are in a strong race for least innovative in the truck industry. Ford and Ram are running circles around them.

As for "you get what you pay for", I don't believe that for a second. The guy who bought my dad's 2013 Tundra new took a bath on it. Bought it new for $40k OTD and traded it in 2 years later for $24k. $700 a month depreciation is nothing to sneeze at.

My wife drives a Highlander and I've driven Chevy's since I started driving until the Ram I have now. Neither Chevy or Toyota have ever left me stranded. I think they both make good vehicles. But both need a lot of work to keep up with the power and gas mileage that Ram and Ford are putting out now. The Ram 8-speed and Ford 10-speed have changed the game for people who drive a truck as a commuter vehicle 90% of the time and use it as a truck the other 10%.

Not everyone wants newfangled trucks. The reason Toyota and Chevy are leading in reliability is they have stuck with what has got them there. Give me a V8 that gets good mileage any day over tiny turboed 4 and 6 cylinder engines.

I never understood the innovative argument. We are talking about keeping a truck long term. Once you buy it and it begins to age, their is zero innovation. Who cares what happens to new models after you buy it. Any and all innovation is sacrificed in order to keep something long term.

Just like every brand it depends on what you get. I got my Yota for 30k it�s 4 years old has 80k on and I am always getting offers for for over $25k for it. Then again it wasn�t built in San Antonio or by Toyota for that matter.

So people are always coming up to you and asking if you want to sell your truck, or do you just keep it on Craig's List for the fun of it?

I get about three emails or phone calls a week from Toyota of Dallas, Plano and Richardson. Was offered $25900 last week when I took it in for service.

No doubt the Tacoma is king of resale on the used car market. I've literally seen a used car manager put a higher trade in appraisal on a 2 year old Tacoma with 20K miles than the lady paid for it new. I was astonished that the 2nd buyer would end up paying more than the first. The truck sold for more used than it did new.

The only other vehicle I've seen hold close to that kind of resale is Jeep Wranglers.

Actually the FJ hold value better than the Taco

Those are called sales calls. They are trying to get you to buy a new truck. Anyway, that was my lame attempt at humor.

Some are sales calls but not all. The $25900 offer was a straight out buy offer. If any automaker actually made something worth buying right now I may have taken it.

That's my point - Chevy doesn't have a V8 that gets good gas mileage unless I'm missing something.

Ford's 5.0 with 3.55 gears and the 10-speed can pull 10k lbs and get 22-24 mpg on the highway. Ram's 5.7L Hemi with the 8-speed and 3.21 can get 25-26 mpg highway and still pull 8k lbs. Both of those combos can be had affordably and with very low reliability risks.

My innovative comment had more to do with transmission and gearing combos with good engine performance than it did with the ecoboost and other engine innovation.

So a Chevy 6.2 with 420hp capable of towing 12,500 pounds and still getting 21mpg just aint good enough? I think that's pretty innovative. By all means drive what you like. I'm done.

And that's the 1500 you're talking about Chris. We just traded in a 2011 and got $16k towards our 2018. I could have gotten $18,500 if I had sold it myself. It was in really good condition, but $16k was plenty for a 7 year old truck. We did the same thing this year that we did in 2011 ... waited till they were clearing the 2018s out and got a smokin' deal.

Working with Moritz doesn't get us any special deals, but Monte worked every discount and rebate he could. The window price on our new truck was $47,550. With a $16k trade in, all the discounts and rebates, we ended up owing about $15,850 TT&L out the door.

Last I checked, and it's been a couple years, you had to spend $40k+ to get that 6.2 engine, and it took premium gas. Maybe I'm wrong? But your savings are all gone at that point. Might as well buy a 5.3 and get 15 mpg.

If they offered that at the LT level and it took 87 octane, I'm all in. But at least back in 2016 or 2017, they didn't offer it until the High Country and it took premium IIRC.

I'm a Chevy guy, but the 5.3 is crazy outdated and hasn't been reliable since the AFM started in 2006 or 2007 or whenever it was. My buddy had one that drank a quart of oil every 1k miles and Chevy wouldn't do a thing to fix it.

My first truck was an S-10, and then I had a regular cab GMC Sierra, then an extended cab Silverado, then a crew cab Silverado. One short stint with a regular cab Ram 1500 in there, but I have driven mostly chevy in my adult life and none of them have ever given me any trouble. But the 5.3 doesn't cut it anymore, and reserving the 6.2 for the rich folks leaves a poor taste in my mouth.

ETA: For the same price as the 6.2, I could have a Ram 2500 with a Cummins that could pull the 6.2 Chevy across the country behind it without even knowing it was there.

Do Ford trucks still have "military grade" aluminum?

Break in mileage for a Ford....lol.

We run a bunch of fleet. Chevy, Ford and Dodge. Ford has the lowest cost for us to own. Buying, fuel and maintenance. Chevy is the highest. Our drivers either drive it easy or drive the heck out of it.

I thought the 10 speed transmission was a joint effort with Ford and GM. I believe they will both sport them soon. Seems the big engine will be either phased out or priced out. As for reliability, I guess broken door handles, AC vents that break, and electrical problems don't count. Most of the Chevy trucks I have been in rattled and smoked. May personal favorite is when you try to roll down the window and it just falls down.