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sasPlanet and navionics ?? #12983961 12/03/18 11:59 PM
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Anybody using sasplanet w/navionics maps? I used to be able to but marine maps are not there anymore...


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Re: sasPlanet and navionics ?? [Re: D Egge] #12983980 12/04/18 12:27 AM
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Ive used SAS planet to make satellite overlays on Lowrance

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Re: sasPlanet and navionics ?? [Re: D Egge] #12984182 12/04/18 03:03 AM
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Would you mind starting your sas and try to open a navionics map? Mine wont load, says tile does not exist????


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Re: sasPlanet and navionics ?? [Re: D Egge] #12984260 12/04/18 04:39 AM
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I'm not real familiar with Pascal (the language SASPlanet is written in) nor the Navionics API, but their code does not appear to implement the API correctly. It looks like Navionics might have updated their API in June, SASPlanet hasnt released an update since 2016

I was able to see the Navionics maps on there last year

Re: sasPlanet and navionics ?? [Re: D Egge] #12984268 12/04/18 04:58 AM
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I wouldnt be surprised if Navionics changed their API when they realized it allowed people to create geospatially referenced images (essentially allowing people to create bootleg Navionics cards - some people might call that theft)

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Originally Posted by 04champ
I wouldnt be surprised if Navionics changed their API when they realized it allowed people to create geospatially referenced images (essentially allowing people to create bootleg Navionics cards - some people might call that theft)


You clearly understand computers far more than I do
That makes sense, but its just an overlay; you arent taking information from Navionics and reselling it


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7.2.2 Restrictions against Data Export or Copying.

(a) No Unauthorized Copying, Modification, Creation of Derivative Works, or Display of the Content. You must not copy, translate, modify, or create a derivative work (including creating or contributing to a database) of, or publicly display any Content or any part thereof except as explicitly permitted under these Terms.

(b) No Pre-Fetching, Caching, or Storage of Content. You must not pre-fetch, cache, or store any Content, except that you may store: (i) limited amounts of Content for the purpose of improving the performance of your Maps API Implementation if you do so temporarily, securely, and in a manner that does not permit use of the Content outside of the Service; and (ii) any content identifier or key that the Maps APIs Documentation specifically permits you to store.

(c) With reference to the restrictions described in a) and b) above, You cannot allow the End User accessing your Maps API Implementation to print and geo-reference our Content in a way that would generate a map usable for navigation.



This section of the terms of service appears to specifically prohibit exporting data via their API for the purpose of creating an overlay for use on a chartplotter

Re: sasPlanet and navionics ?? [Re: D Egge] #12984468 12/04/18 02:36 PM
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In contrast, Google's Earth Engine API does not appear to impose any similar restrictions as they consider it a service they provide for free to help people more easily work with publicly available data

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Well, that restriction is certainly understandable. Navionics must have spent money charting these waters. I just hope that data didn't just come from users contributing to that data freely. I wonder how sasplanet had that chart data in the first place? (russian hackers)


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It's possible their key issued by Navionics just expired or something. If you go to Settings -> Map Settings while trying to view the Navionics maps, you can see in Params.txt and GetUrlScript.txt that they are sending a key and data requests to Navionics. Maybe someone with more time than me could figure out how to make it work again.

It appears their Google Earth implementation is broken now too.

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Excuse my ignorance,
But, would this effect one's ability to create a trail or waypoint in google earth, and then overlay on top of a Navionics image on a Lowrance unit.

I'm guessing that it wouldn't, since the trail or waypoint is added to the Lowrance unit hard drive and not the Navionics chip. My concern would be some sort of compatibility issue.

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Originally Posted by collincountytx
Excuse my ignorance,
But, would this effect one's ability to create a trail or waypoint in google earth, and then overlay on top of a Navionics image on a Lowrance unit.

I'm guessing that it wouldn't, since the trail or waypoint is added to the Lowrance unit hard drive and not the Navionics chip. My concern would be some sort of compatibility issue.

Thank you



Waypoints and trails are GPS data, not map data. They have nothing to do with each other. You get those whether you have a map background or not.


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Re: sasPlanet and navionics ?? [Re: D Egge] #12986788 12/06/18 03:26 PM
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Thanks, makes sense


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Originally Posted by collincountytx
Excuse my ignorance,
But, would this effect one's ability to create a trail or waypoint in google earth, and then overlay on top of a Navionics image on a Lowrance unit.

I'm guessing that it wouldn't, since the trail or waypoint is added to the Lowrance unit hard drive and not the Navionics chip. My concern would be some sort of compatibility issue.

Thank you


No, that's just a data conversion from kml to usr. You don't even need SASPlanet to do this, you can create the kml in Google Earth Pro and convert with GPSBabel

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