texasfishingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
jesseh413, Brad2587, C Man, Cameron Gose, Jetskirentals512
119184 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
hopalong 121,073
TexDawg 119,812
Bigbob_FTW 95,370
John175☮ 85,919
Pilothawk 83,275
Bob Davis 82,439
Mark Perry 72,497
Derek 🐝 68,322
JDavis7873 67,416
Forum Statistics
Forums59
Topics1,038,964
Posts13,956,530
Members144,184
Most Online39,925
Dec 30th, 2023
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Hard jerkbaits #12963839 11/13/18 01:27 AM
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 58
B
Bassin16 Offline OP
Outdoorsman
OP Offline
Outdoorsman
B
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 58
For you guys that love to throw hard jerkbaits. Do you tie directly to a split ring or thard non-slip loop knot w/o a split ring? Is there a significant difference in the bait action btw the two ways?.

Moritz Chevrolet - 9101 Camp Bowie W Blvd, Fort Worth, TX - Monte Coon (817) 696-2003
Re: Hard jerkbaits [Re: Bassin16] #12963852 11/13/18 01:38 AM
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 40,845
C
CCTX Online Content
mapquest
Online Content
mapquest
C
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 40,845
I do use a loop knot; but very infrequently and if I do, I tie a doubled line loop knot to the split ring the jerk bait came with.

I water balance all my jerkbaits with the split ring on. Removing the split ring would affect the tuning

The traditional non slip loop knot is a relatively weak knot. Throwing a jerkbait on 8lb test around cover with a traditional non slip loop knot is a recipe for heart break

Does a loop knot enhance subtle side to side wobbling and rolling; sure, but only rarely to such an extent that it would make a big difference in catch rate


[Linked Image]
Re: Hard jerkbaits [Re: Bassin16] #12963898 11/13/18 02:16 AM
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 10,818
rj74955 Online Content
TFF Guru
Online Content
TFF Guru
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 10,818
Good stuff right there CCTX. It's going to get good before too long!

Re: Hard jerkbaits [Re: Bassin16] #12963903 11/13/18 02:25 AM
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 60
P
pg79 Offline
Outdoorsman
Offline
Outdoorsman
P
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 60
tie straight to the 110 or pointer. 12lb sniper.

Re: Hard jerkbaits [Re: Bassin16] #12964033 11/13/18 09:54 AM
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 414
P
photofishin Offline
Angler
Offline
Angler
P
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 414
I haven't done this on jerkbaits but have on jigs saltwater fishing. Try tying a solid O ring to your line and use split ring pliers to attach to the lure. It gives the same motion as a loop knot without the breakpoint of a knot. It's also relatively easy to change lures.

Re: Hard jerkbaits [Re: Bassin16] #12964283 11/13/18 03:27 PM
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 4,533
B
bigbass94 Offline
TFF Team Angler
Offline
TFF Team Angler
B
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 4,533
Straight to the split ring and no loop knot. If you tie a loop knot with light line it'll slip out of the split ring sometimes. I've done a lot of tinkering and trial & error with jerkbaits. I don't really notice a difference between a loop knot or a regular knot.


"If people concentrated on the really important things in life, there'd be a shortage of fishing poles." - Doug Larson
Re: Hard jerkbaits [Re: Bassin16] #12964363 11/13/18 04:28 PM
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 811
B
bbassfishes Offline
Pro Angler
Offline
Pro Angler
B
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 811
Don't wasted your time trying to tie the loop knot each time. Not to knock the people that do by any means, but there's not a measurable difference in just tying to the split ring. If you are more confident with the loop knot, then DO WHAT YOU ARE CONFIDENT IN, but in a tournament situation, or where you have limited time, this takes up precious amounts of it.

That said, I've gotten them with no split ring, thrown them, and caught just as many fish. It's more about how and where you present the bait than anything else.

You can have the most expensive and beautiful knot in the world, but if you aren't putting it in a fishes face, it will do you no good.

Last edited by bbassfishes; 11/13/18 04:29 PM.
Re: Hard jerkbaits [Re: Bassin16] #12964374 11/13/18 04:32 PM
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 13,516
Ken A. Offline
Groovy
Offline
Groovy
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 13,516
No loop knot for me. It is a weak knot like mentioned above probably 60% strength of the line test. Tie directly to the split ring on the bait with a palomar and let er rip.



Re: Hard jerkbaits [Re: Bassin16] #12964406 11/13/18 04:57 PM
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 58
B
Bassin16 Offline OP
Outdoorsman
OP Offline
Outdoorsman
B
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 58
Thanks for the great insight. Did not really want fool around with a loop knot Bryan

Re: Hard jerkbaits [Re: Bassin16] #12964430 11/13/18 05:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,893
C
ChanceHuiet Online Happy
TFF Celebrity
Online Happy
TFF Celebrity
C
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,893
Jerkbait is my favorite lure to throw. I have one tied on year round. And I do tie a loop knot. I dont use anything other than 12lb red label. Its thin enough for me. I've caught hundreds upon hundreds on a jerkbait up to 9.5 And have never had a knot failure. I tie the loop knot directly to the split ring that cMe with the bait. I tinker quit often with different hook and split ring sizes and numbers to get a bait to perform the way I want it. Great thing about having a swimming pool around. Yall can say a loop knot doesnt help but like stated I believe it does so I'll keep throwing it. I even throw it on all my hard body topwaters also.

Saltwater everything I throw is tied with a loop knot. Gives a jighead a lot more action.


Originally Posted by lakeforkfisherman
I can backlash toilet paper.
Re: Hard jerkbaits [Re: Ken A.] #12964434 11/13/18 05:17 PM
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 3,424
F
Finesse EMPEROR/ Dropshot King Offline
TFF Team Angler
Offline
TFF Team Angler
F
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 3,424
Originally Posted By: Ken A.
No loop knot for me. It is a weak knot like mentioned above probably 60% strength of the line test. Tie directly to the split ring on the bait with a palomar and let er rip.


+1 I world never tie a loop knot on a vision 110 or pointer I think the split ring works just fine.

Re: Hard jerkbaits [Re: Bassin16] #12964444 11/13/18 05:27 PM
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 21,105
buda13 Offline
TFF Guru
Offline
TFF Guru
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 21,105
I gain a little extra action by using a speed clip attached to the split ring. Just a personal preference I guess... if for some reason I dont have any speed clips I just do a palomar direct to the split ring.




Re: Hard jerkbaits [Re: Bassin16] #12964532 11/13/18 07:04 PM
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 851
S
sll Online Content
Pro Angler
Online Content
Pro Angler
S
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 851
I always remove the split ring and tie a loop knot to the eye.....crankbaits and jerkbaits. Personal preference sure, but I just do not trust the line moving and slipping into the split ring and weakening it.

Re: Hard jerkbaits [Re: Bassin16] #12964951 11/14/18 02:42 AM
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 72,497
Mark Perry Online Content
Super Freak
Online Content
Super Freak
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 72,497
I think the Megabass 110s fish much better with the split rings on.

Re: Hard jerkbaits [Re: Bassin16] #12964980 11/14/18 02:59 AM
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 883
B
Bill Durham Offline
Pro Angler
Offline
Pro Angler
B
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 883
KVD uses a Palomar.. good enough for me.

Page 1 of 2 1 2
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

© 1998-2022 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3