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Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: PettyBigBass] #12823053
07/10/18 07:08 PM
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I haven't read every single one of these comments but I see some people above posting pics of Chris Bailey foils and they absolutely work. Some hulls porpoise, it is what it is, it is especially noticeable on faster boats with heavy motors, lots of hipo guys run these foils on their lower units for better holeshot and eliminate porpoising. On my Bullet, I went from similar issue, porpoising in the mid to upper 20s slightly, to being able to run on pad at 17 miles an hour, NO porpoising. They do not effect top end because at that point, the foil has come out of the water if your jackplate is at the proper height.
Chris Bailey Marine, CB Marine on facebook is who to order from. They are about 200 bucks for powerder coating and some nice graphics of your boat brand or whatever you desire. Don't be fooled by the wal mart ones, get a nice one from Chris or someone similar.


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Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: PettyBigBass] #12823106
07/10/18 07:47 PM
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I run a Triton but am a firm believer that a hole shot plate allows you to plane at slower speeds. You might want to give it a try

Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: Ken A.] #12823143
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Originally Posted By: Ken A.
Originally Posted By: GIG'EM AGGIES
I think it's something that's inherit with Skeeters. I'm probably way off base but before the sponsons Skeeter's wouldn't do that. I had a 92' 175SX and I could go as slow as 20mph without it porpoising. I've had Ranger's and Bass Cat's and neither had that problem. I'm now in a Skeeter ZX190 and it will under 30mph and just about everytime as you come off pad. It's called the " Skeeter slap " LOL.


The sponsons were supposed to do three things for the boats.

1. Fix the backwash problem coming off plane by adding more flotation at the rear of the boat. Skeeters were notorious for this in the past. I recall the first Skeeter I ever saw with the built-in sponsons. I've gotten used to it now but it was not attractive to me.

2. Improve holeshot by diverting the water downward as the nose lifted during holeshot.

3. Minimize porpoising by adding more downforce to the nose as the water comes off the pad of the boat.

Those were the claim to fame according to Skeeter when they changed the design years ago.


All 3 things failed Ken. If they worked all the other manufacturers would have them. My old 92' never porpoised, had a 4 second hole shot and never backwashed coming off pad. And the hull didn't look like it had hemorrhoids, lol.


I am a Senager. (Senior teenager) I have everything that I wanted as a teenager, only 50 years later. I don't have to go to school or work. I get an allowance every month. I don't have a curfew, I have a drivers license,a PU truck and I have a bass boat.


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Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: PettyBigBass] #12823231
07/10/18 09:26 PM
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I have a 2014 FX21 and never had an issue.
Atlas jack plate set at 4

Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: GIG'EM AGGIES] #12823358
07/10/18 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted By: GIG'EM AGGIES
Originally Posted By: Ken A.
Originally Posted By: GIG'EM AGGIES
I think it's something that's inherit with Skeeters. I'm probably way off base but before the sponsons Skeeter's wouldn't do that. I had a 92' 175SX and I could go as slow as 20mph without it porpoising. I've had Ranger's and Bass Cat's and neither had that problem. I'm now in a Skeeter ZX190 and it will under 30mph and just about everytime as you come off pad. It's called the " Skeeter slap " LOL.


The sponsons were supposed to do three things for the boats.

1. Fix the backwash problem coming off plane by adding more flotation at the rear of the boat. Skeeters were notorious for this in the past. I recall the first Skeeter I ever saw with the built-in sponsons. I've gotten used to it now but it was not attractive to me.

2. Improve holeshot by diverting the water downward as the nose lifted during holeshot.

3. Minimize porpoising by adding more downforce to the nose as the water comes off the pad of the boat.

Those were the claim to fame according to Skeeter when they changed the design years ago.

And the hull didn't look like it had hemorrhoids, lol.


I was going to say something about how I thought they made the boat look but I feared the Hate-Mail....

roflmao

Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: PettyBigBass] #12823370
07/10/18 11:26 PM
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I truly believe 90% of the issues people have with boats is because they don’t know to drive one,


Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: PettyBigBass] #12823393
07/10/18 11:42 PM
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all that money to buy a high end bass boat and you have to either run WOT , or screw around with the Skeeter slam ? I would hate to be the Skeeter dealer reading this thread .
What boats NEVER have this issue ?

Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: Ken A.] #12823401
07/10/18 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted By: Ken A.
Originally Posted By: GIG'EM AGGIES
Originally Posted By: Ken A.
Originally Posted By: GIG'EM AGGIES
I think it's something that's inherit with Skeeters. I'm probably way off base but before the sponsons Skeeter's wouldn't do that. I had a 92' 175SX and I could go as slow as 20mph without it porpoising. I've had Ranger's and Bass Cat's and neither had that problem. I'm now in a Skeeter ZX190 and it will under 30mph and just about everytime as you come off pad. It's called the " Skeeter slap " LOL.


The sponsons were supposed to do three things for the boats.

1. Fix the backwash problem coming off plane by adding more flotation at the rear of the boat. Skeeters were notorious for this in the past. I recall the first Skeeter I ever saw with the built-in sponsons. I've gotten used to it now but it was not attractive to me.

2. Improve holeshot by diverting the water downward as the nose lifted during holeshot.

3. Minimize porpoising by adding more downforce to the nose as the water comes off the pad of the boat.

Those were the claim to fame according to Skeeter when they changed the design years ago.

And the hull didn't look like it had hemorrhoids, lol.


I was going to say something about how I thought they made the boat look but I feared the Hate-Mail....

roflmao


So far so good for me. I thought I'd get pasted too but TFF'ers are very kind and understanding folks.


I am a Senager. (Senior teenager) I have everything that I wanted as a teenager, only 50 years later. I don't have to go to school or work. I get an allowance every month. I don't have a curfew, I have a drivers license,a PU truck and I have a bass boat.


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Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: PettyBigBass] #12823416
07/10/18 11:52 PM
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The FX 20 I had did it all the time. You get use to it.


Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: PettyBigBass] #12823559
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Ken and Gig'em .....you guys need to stop. My girls taken, and I love her hemorrhoids! Quit staring at her hind end!


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Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: SteezMacQueen] #12823819
07/11/18 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted By: SteezMacQueen
Ken and Gig'em .....you guys need to stop. My girls taken, and I love her hemorrhoids! Quit staring at her hind end!


roflmao

Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: Ken A.] #12823903
07/11/18 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted By: Ken A.
Originally Posted By: SteezMacQueen
Ken and Gig'em .....you guys need to stop. My girls taken, and I love her hemorrhoids! Quit staring at her hind end!


roflmao
peep


I am a Senager. (Senior teenager) I have everything that I wanted as a teenager, only 50 years later. I don't have to go to school or work. I get an allowance every month. I don't have a curfew, I have a drivers license,a PU truck and I have a bass boat.


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Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: PettyBigBass] #12824576
07/11/18 08:47 PM
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mine had this problem.. and it was motor height.. I put an atlas jake plate on so I can play with the heights... and found a sweet spot... problem exist no more


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Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: PettyBigBass] #12825087
07/12/18 02:35 AM
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Hey look this is not a new problem for Skeeter. I bought a 1976 SS7 and it did it like crazy. Factory wouldn't fix it so I did. I took some epoxy putty and put me a couple of 3 inch wedges on the trailing edge of the bottom outside of the hull and stopped it. Look at the bottom of a Basscat and you will see the same thing or at least my Basscat Jaguar has them.


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Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: 1oldbassguy] #12825397
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Originally Posted By: 1oldbassguy

What boats NEVER have this issue ?


Ranger. In order to porpoise one must get the heavy nose up.


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