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Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: SKEETER_MAN_225] #12822625
07/10/18 02:14 PM
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Frisco, TX. and Lake Fork
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Originally Posted By: SKEETER_MAN_225
I keep hearing about this especially the 2018 models.
I have yet to experience this at low speeds in my 2016 FX21 LE


Same hull design. And weights of the boats are almost identical.

Trim and weight distribution is the only solution to it. I don't know though. I don't really drive at slow rates. Im either going or idling around looking at structure.

Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: Bobby Milam] #12822639
07/10/18 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted By: Bobby Milam
I always hear the skeeters coming a mile away with that slap. I always wonder how it feels in the boat when it is doing that. Seems like it would be annoying at the very least if not uncomfortable.


I do not think that slap you are talking about has any effect on the ride, you are correct, you can hear one coming .


Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: PettyBigBass] #12822702
07/10/18 03:02 PM
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Several guys on the Skeeter owners page have added these and say it completely fixes any porpoising and they can run slower than normal on pad with no effect on top end. My 04 ZX225 never has done it. Probably the five thousand pounds of tackle I carry in the front of the boat.



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Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: PettyBigBass] #12822714
07/10/18 03:11 PM
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Bronte, TX
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Everything on this thread is why I got away from Skeeter. Stress cracks on the 3 I owned and it was like pulling teeth to get them to fix them. I have since went to Triton, you don't have these problems. I personally will not go back to Skeeter. Y'all may want to look at one. They're nice rigs.


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Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: Chris B] #12822716
07/10/18 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted By: Chris B

Several guys on the Skeeter owners page have added these and say it completely fixes any porpoising and they can run slower than normal on pad with no effect on top end. My 04 ZX225 never has done it. Probably the five thousand pounds of tackle I carry in the front of the boat.


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Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: Chris B] #12822730
07/10/18 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: Chris B

Several guys on the Skeeter owners page have added these and say it completely fixes any porpoising and they can run slower than normal on pad with no effect on top end. My 04 ZX225 never has done it. Probably the five thousand pounds of tackle I carry in the front of the boat.


Any noticeable top end loss? My boat porpoises (2016 ZX250) if I'm not on the trim or throttle, I can usually keep it under control, but it is annoying.

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Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: Ken A.] #12822743
07/10/18 03:42 PM
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Lake Gaston, VA
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Originally Posted By: Ken A.
The more weight you have in the tail end of the boat the more tendency it will have to porpoise. Livewells full adds about 325# to the boat. Full fuel tank adds another 300#. This will make the boat have more tendency to bounce. Lower the motor on the jackplate and trim the motor all the way under and it should cruise without too much porpoise at a low speed. Having a ton of weight up front will also help minimize this but will also hurt your top-end speed more.

It's hard to have everything in a bass rig. We all want a rig that will plane at 15 mph, not porpoise, run 85 mph while getting 10 mph, and run smoothly enough to drink your coffee in four footers. That boat doesn't exist yet. It's like transparent aluminum. wink

Weight management is a crazy thing in a bass rig.


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Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: Chris B] #12822776
07/10/18 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted By: Chris B

Several guys on the Skeeter owners page have added these and say it completely fixes any porpoising and they can run slower than normal on pad with no effect on top end. My 04 ZX225 never has done it. Probably the five thousand pounds of tackle I carry in the front of the boat.


A modified whale tail, well aint that cute. Looks like a [censored] poor cure for a badly designed hull.

Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: PettyBigBass] #12822840
07/10/18 05:03 PM
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Why are you going low speeds? Bass boats are not designed to run effectively for low speeds...they are designed to run at 3/4 to full speed. I see guys all the time hopping their boats when they slow down and it that completely because they do not know how to run their boat. Before letting off the the throttle just trim the motor all the way down and then let off the throttle and no brand of bass boat will hop. You have one of the finest boats on the market so just get with on of the Skeeter demo guys and they will be more than glad to show you how to properly run that FX. Enjoy that awesome boat!

Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: Bass&More] #12822848
07/10/18 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted By: Bass&More
Originally Posted By: PettyBigBass
I do not have a jack plate nor do I care to buy one to resolve this. I guess I will just haul booty and take my pontoon out when I want to cruise. Thanks again for the replies. Funny how the salesman said he never heard of a skeeter bouncing.

I have a solix front and back. The crank battery would last about 1 hr before the solix started shutting down when I cranked the big engine. I replaced with a $300 upgrade battery and will still rundown 1/2 thru a tournament. No room to Add,and parallel, another battery like my old boat.. what do you guys do about that?


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Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: PettyBigBass] #12822920
07/10/18 05:54 PM
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Not familiar with the newer boats and motors but my old Nitro (Skeeter Starfire clone) was terrible under 35mph. I removed a long tilt limit bolt on the tilt bracket which allowed the motor to tuck in further to the bottom of the transom and I can bury the bow of the boat if needed to stop porpoising and keep the manual jack plate up high where it is needed for faster speeds.

Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: PettyBigBass] #12822991
07/10/18 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: PettyBigBass

I have a solix front and back. The crank battery would last about 1 hr before the solix started shutting down when I cranked the big engine. I replaced with a $300 upgrade battery and will still rundown 1/2 thru a tournament. No room to Add,and parallel, another battery like my old boat.. what do you guys do about that?


Not just you, mine does the same. Solix 15 and 360 up front, Solix 12 at dash, 10 guage wire running directly to each one from a new Duracell group 31 AGM (31DTMAGM). I've even moved my PowerPole's to one of the trolling batteries to lighten the load on the cranking battery. I put the dash unit on standby mode when the outboard is off and run the front unit on the lowest screen brightness that's still clearly visible, especially if I'm not motoring around much and livewell pumps are running. Minus some magic fix that I'm not finding, it appears necessary to have batteries in parallel to keep those friggin units running full blast all the time without the engine running.

Also, the porpoising is not uncommon in Skeeters. All of them I have ridden in have done it to some extent at low speeds regardless of driver experience.

Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: tmd11111] #12823026
07/10/18 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted By: tmd11111
Originally Posted By: Chris B

Several guys on the Skeeter owners page have added these and say it completely fixes any porpoising and they can run slower than normal on pad with no effect on top end. My 04 ZX225 never has done it. Probably the five thousand pounds of tackle I carry in the front of the boat.


A modified whale tail, well aint that cute. Looks like a [censored] poor cure for a badly designed hull.


I had one of these on my last boat.....got a few "snickers and snide" remarks like the one above. They always shut up at weigh in though. Maybe because their perfectly tuned boats were owned by folks that couldn't care if their boats fished well. Or maybe it was the angler ...either way. Same end result.

Just kidding. Mostly.


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Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: PettyBigBass] #12823039
07/10/18 07:00 PM
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I had a Legend LE21 that I took the "holeshot or skidplate" off when I installed a new transducer on my jack plate because I always heard the holeshot plates were snake oil, and I didn't feel like re-installing it if the plate did nothing. Man o man, that boat started purposing like crazy. Especially at lower speeds and when coming off plane. I put the holeshot plate back on and it cured my problem. Huge difference.

My FX21 also has this snake oil err I mean holeshot plate on it, and my FX21 does not porpoise. I also have a hydraulic jackplate and lower my motor at low speeds, but I see how the holeshot plate would help. Might try that.


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Re: FX 21 Porpoising? [Re: PettyBigBass] #12823049
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I like my Bullet even better after reading all of this.

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