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Re: Do I have a major transom issue? [Re: csmithag95] #12822291
07/10/18 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted By: csmithag95
Update: the transom and top cap were worked by classic in APRIL. Just left there and they are making the repairs now. I was relieved to know they honor their work but pretty disappointed in their work manahip. Hopefully they make it right. I’ll keep this post up to date. 2 week lead time.


I don’t want to dog pile...but, barely 3 months on the repair. OMG
I hope they get you taken care of. You are using some sort of transom saver device while traveling/trailering, right?

Re: Do I have a major transom issue? [Re: csmithag95] #12822320
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Cryin shame. Sorry for your troubles.

Top cap will have to come off to fix that properly. New stringers, knee braces and re-set the transom, and whatever else is found. Be sure and stand your ground on repair, and let us know after.

Re: Do I have a major transom issue? [Re: csmithag95] #12822718
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I have been using the internal style transom saver, as opposed to the ones that extend to your trailer. Does anyone have an opinion on if either one is better?

Re: Do I have a major transom issue? [Re: csmithag95] #12822720
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You might mention that the entire state of Texas is following this repair on the TFF.... popcorn2

Re: Do I have a major transom issue? [Re: csmithag95] #12822916
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I've had Classic do some repairs to my boat and they will always make it right if there is a problem. Chris is one of the most conscientious businessmen I know and he understands his reputation is his livelihood.


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Re: Do I have a major transom issue? [Re: texasbass1] #12823631
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Those are not really transom savers. Some keep the motor from turning side to side during transport and some take the pressure off the tilt trim. A true transom saver will transfer the torsional load from the motor to the trailer during transport rather than that load going to the transom and causing it to flex. There is lots of misinformation out there about this, but the physics are the physics.

Re: Do I have a major transom issue? [Re: csmithag95] #12823853
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Physics are physics. Its a one piece aluminum bar. IF it transfers motor shock TO the trailer, it will ALSO transfer trailer shock TO the motor & transom. The transom SHOULD be capable of handling ANY load /shock the motor puts on it during transport. It takes lots more stress/loads/shocks while boat is in water running. I use the Motor Toter style. If my transom won't handle hauling my 250 down the road, I dang sure won't trust it to go across a lake at 70+mph OR take on 3-4 waves in a storm. I don't want the added trailer vibrations transferred to my motor. Boat sits on 4 carpeted bunks & has springs on axles to absorb jolts. Not gonna put a rigid bar from trailer to motor. That's my personal preference.

I'm SURE Classic Fiberglass WILL repair that boat fully!!! Any business can have one failed job. That's the first & ONLY one Ive ever heard or seen that they done. They're in the business & im SURE they appreciate that you are giving the opportunity to correct it. I'll assure you it's a fluke. Its the .01% that has failed. All their work (99.99%)seems to be TOP quality.

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Re: Do I have a major transom issue? [Re: csmithag95] #12824476
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I PURCHASED AND STILL OWN TODAY A 2006 LEGEND THAT HAD THIS SAME ISSUE.I ALSO DO FIBERGLASS REPAIR WORK FOR A LIVING AND HAVE FIXED OVER 20 LEGENDS WITH THIS SAME PROBLEM.IF COMPOSITE TRANSOM IS NOT SHATTERED ,THE MOTOR AND FUEL TANK WILL NEED TO BE REMOVED. CUT OUT THE INNER DECK SUPPORT PANEL AND GLASS THE DECK TO TRANSOM TOP (INSIDE). ALSO ON THE OUTSIDE THE DECK NEEDS TO BE CUT AWAY 2" AT TRANSOM EDGE AND GLASSED TOGETHER. I HAVE ALSO FIXED MANY SKEETERS , RANGERS, TRITONS ,CHAMPIONS ,ETC...WITH SOME FORM OF (BROKE)TRANSOM DAMAGES NOT CAUSED BY IMPACT IN WATER. ALL TRANSPORT DAMAGES. A TRUE TRANSOM SAVER COUNTER RELIEVES THE MOTOR (BIG JACK PLATES AND POWER POLES) FROM TRYING TO FALL OFF THE BOAT IN TRANSPORT. A (MOTOR TOTER) RELIEVES PRESSURE ON THE TILT / TRIM SYSTEM NOT THE TRANSOM. WHEN DRIVING ACROSS A LAKE THE MOTOR IS PUSHING THE TRANSOM , KNEE BRACES AND STRINGERS. HOPE THIS ADVICE HELPS ALL WHO ARE WATCHING THIS POST. I SHARE THIS INFO. WITH ALL OF MY CUSTOMERS.

Re: Do I have a major transom issue? [Re: csmithag95] #12824692
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I had a 05 Le 21 just like this. My transom did the same thing. I took it back to the legend plant in Arkansas. They told me it would be 3 to 4 weeks. Ended up being 10 weeks and was like pulling teeth to get my boat back. When I bought the boat from lmc marine in houston, they never mentioned a transferable warranty to the second owner which I was. Cost me 3000$ for legend to fix a 6 year old boat. I hope your repair goes smother than mine. That's part of the reason I am not running a legend anymore.

Re: Do I have a major transom issue? [Re: J IRWIN] #12825541
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Originally Posted By: J IRWIN
I PURCHASED AND STILL OWN TODAY A 2006 LEGEND THAT HAD THIS SAME ISSUE.I ALSO DO FIBERGLASS REPAIR WORK FOR A LIVING AND HAVE FIXED OVER 20 LEGENDS WITH THIS SAME PROBLEM.IF COMPOSITE TRANSOM IS NOT SHATTERED ,THE MOTOR AND FUEL TANK WILL NEED TO BE REMOVED. CUT OUT THE INNER DECK SUPPORT PANEL AND GLASS THE DECK TO TRANSOM TOP (INSIDE). ALSO ON THE OUTSIDE THE DECK NEEDS TO BE CUT AWAY 2" AT TRANSOM EDGE AND GLASSED TOGETHER. I HAVE ALSO FIXED MANY SKEETERS , RANGERS, TRITONS ,CHAMPIONS ,ETC...WITH SOME FORM OF (BROKE)TRANSOM DAMAGES NOT CAUSED BY IMPACT IN WATER. ALL TRANSPORT DAMAGES. A TRUE TRANSOM SAVER COUNTER RELIEVES THE MOTOR (BIG JACK PLATES AND POWER POLES) FROM TRYING TO FALL OFF THE BOAT IN TRANSPORT. A (MOTOR TOTER) RELIEVES PRESSURE ON THE TILT / TRIM SYSTEM NOT THE TRANSOM. WHEN DRIVING ACROSS A LAKE THE MOTOR IS PUSHING THE TRANSOM , KNEE BRACES AND STRINGERS. HOPE THIS ADVICE HELPS ALL WHO ARE WATCHING THIS POST. I SHARE THIS INFO. WITH ALL OF MY CUSTOMERS.


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Re: Do I have a major transom issue? [Re: J IRWIN] #12825596
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Originally Posted By: J IRWIN
I PURCHASED AND STILL OWN TODAY A 2006 LEGEND THAT HAD THIS SAME ISSUE.I ALSO DO FIBERGLASS REPAIR WORK FOR A LIVING AND HAVE FIXED OVER 20 LEGENDS WITH THIS SAME PROBLEM.IF COMPOSITE TRANSOM IS NOT SHATTERED ,THE MOTOR AND FUEL TANK WILL NEED TO BE REMOVED. CUT OUT THE INNER DECK SUPPORT PANEL AND GLASS THE DECK TO TRANSOM TOP (INSIDE). ALSO ON THE OUTSIDE THE DECK NEEDS TO BE CUT AWAY 2" AT TRANSOM EDGE AND GLASSED TOGETHER. I HAVE ALSO FIXED MANY SKEETERS , RANGERS, TRITONS ,CHAMPIONS ,ETC...WITH SOME FORM OF (BROKE)TRANSOM DAMAGES NOT CAUSED BY IMPACT IN WATER. ALL TRANSPORT DAMAGES. A TRUE TRANSOM SAVER COUNTER RELIEVES THE MOTOR (BIG JACK PLATES AND POWER POLES) FROM TRYING TO FALL OFF THE BOAT IN TRANSPORT. A (MOTOR TOTER) RELIEVES PRESSURE ON THE TILT / TRIM SYSTEM NOT THE TRANSOM. WHEN DRIVING ACROSS A LAKE THE MOTOR IS PUSHING THE TRANSOM , KNEE BRACES AND STRINGERS. HOPE THIS ADVICE HELPS ALL WHO ARE WATCHING THIS POST. I SHARE THIS INFO. WITH ALL OF MY CUSTOMERS.


Have you ever had to repair the transom on a Bullet?

Re: Do I have a major transom issue? [Re: csmithag95] #12826140
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Great information from everyone, and so far the Classic staff has been nothing but courteous and I'll be sure to better watch out for the type of repair they do and be sure it is complete as suggested by all here. Thank you again.

Re: Do I have a major transom issue? [Re: crankbait745] #12826144
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Originally Posted By: crankbait745
I had a 05 Le 21 just like this. My transom did the same thing. I took it back to the legend plant in Arkansas. They told me it would be 3 to 4 weeks. Ended up being 10 weeks and was like pulling teeth to get my boat back. When I bought the boat from lmc marine in houston, they never mentioned a transferable warranty to the second owner which I was. Cost me 3000$ for legend to fix a 6 year old boat. I hope your repair goes smother than mine. That's part of the reason I am not running a legend anymore.


Although I'd rather think mine was one-off, it is good to know that it happens as something systematic and might not be from any major impact or neglect by the previous owner.

Re: Do I have a major transom issue? [Re: Curtbass] #12826145
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Originally Posted By: Curtbass
Physics are physics. Its a one piece aluminum bar. IF it transfers motor shock TO the trailer, it will ALSO transfer trailer shock TO the motor & transom. The transom SHOULD be capable of handling ANY load /shock the motor puts on it during transport. It takes lots more stress/loads/shocks while boat is in water running. I use the Motor Toter style. If my transom won't handle hauling my 250 down the road, I dang sure won't trust it to go across a lake at 70+mph OR take on 3-4 waves in a storm. I don't want the added trailer vibrations transferred to my motor. Boat sits on 4 carpeted bunks & has springs on axles to absorb jolts. Not gonna put a rigid bar from trailer to motor. That's my personal preference.

I'm SURE Classic Fiberglass WILL repair that boat fully!!! Any business can have one failed job. That's the first & ONLY one Ive ever heard or seen that they done. They're in the business & im SURE they appreciate that you are giving the opportunity to correct it. I'll assure you it's a fluke. Its the .01% that has failed. All their work (99.99%)seems to be TOP quality.



Thanks for your encouragement. I look forward to seeing what they come up with.

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