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So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF #12790950
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We live in North Carrollton, and got hit by the hail last week.
The roofing companies have been wearing us out ever since.
Would rather do business with someone on the forum, that others on here have used and can vouch for.
If you don't want to post up a reply, feel free to PM me.
Thanks!

Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: SlabWhisperer] #12790981
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the guy you want cant come to the internet right now



Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: SlabWhisperer] #12790999
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Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: Bass Bug] #12791019
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the guy you want cant come to the internet right now


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Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: SlabWhisperer] #12791046
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Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: SheldonS] #12791050
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Originally Posted By: SheldonS
Butch did a great job for me a few years back.


+1 - Butch did a great job for me as well.

Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: SlabWhisperer] #12791058
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Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: SlabWhisperer] #12791152
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Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: SlabWhisperer] #12791157
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Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: SlabWhisperer] #12791162
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Butch did such a great job on my house, I paid him my deductible and bought him a Big Green Egg.


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Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: Derek 🐝] #12791177
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Originally Posted By: Derek 🐝
Butch did such a great job on my house, I paid him my deductible and bought him a Big Green Egg.


LOL

we can do it
if you are not in a hurry
please don't hire those door knockers

Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: SlabWhisperer] #12791178
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Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: SlabWhisperer] #12791194
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I patched my roof after the last blow up and it passed two inspections. Pay me in beer, and I will gladly hammer random colored shingles on your house. The trick is the glue. If you use clear Lexel, you canít see the imperfections. There is nothing more satisfying than scooting on a roof gluing down flappies. Rubber shoes, commonly called crocks are the bomb on a roof as well.


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Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: Mudshark] #12791214
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Originally Posted By: Mudshark
I patched my roof after the last blow up and it passed two inspections. Pay me in beer, and I will gladly hammer random colored shingles on your house. The trick is the glue. If you use clear Lexel, you canít see the imperfections. There is nothing more satisfying than scooting on a roof gluing down flappies. Rubber shoes, commonly called crocks are the bomb on a roof as well.
see somebody gets it

Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: SlabWhisperer] #12791360
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Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: senko9S] #12791384
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Originally Posted By: senko9S
I can help you out and be trusted. most of the mods know me and JP knows where I live.

J.P. knows where all of us live.

Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: Westside.] #12791432
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Originally Posted By: Westside.
Originally Posted By: Bass Bug
the guy you want cant come to the internet right now


roflmao


I don't think he ever did any time. Last I knew he was getting probation. So he's probably out there somewhere hustling people.

Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: senko9S] #12791578
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Originally Posted By: senko9S
I can help you out and be trusted. most of the mods know me and JP knows where I live.


So do all the neighborhood Boy Scouts


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Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: Cast] #12791606
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Originally Posted By: Cast
Go to THF. Find droptine. I vouch for him.


Droptine did my roof in Oak Point.




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Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: SlabWhisperer] #12791650
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If you can, sell your house and buy a new one. You don't want to go through the living hell of roofing a house. There is no quality control, some shingles get 4 nails, some get maybe 2. I will say a prayer for you.


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Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: Beer Money] #12791696
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I can help you out and be trusted. most of the mods know me and JP knows where I live.

J.P. knows where all of us live.

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Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: J.P. Greeson] #12792520
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Just a note to say Thank You to all who responded publicly and by PM...
There are some very good and trustworthy individuals on this forum.
I suggest you give them a chance at your business.

Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: SlabWhisperer] #12792588
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Originally Posted By: SlabWhisperer
Just a note to say Thank You to all who responded publicly and by PM...
There are some very good and trustworthy individuals on this forum.
I suggest you give them a chance at your business.


So youíre paying your deductible right? Those of us that didnít got blasted by the reputable roofers of the TFF

Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: K.D.] #12792597
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Originally Posted By: K.D.
Originally Posted By: SlabWhisperer
Just a note to say Thank You to all who responded publicly and by PM...
There are some very good and trustworthy individuals on this forum.
I suggest you give them a chance at your business.


So youíre paying your deductible right? Those of us that didnít got blasted by the reputable roofers of the TFF


As should all!!


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Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: Team Skeeterless] #12792604
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Originally Posted By: Team Skeeterless
Originally Posted By: K.D.
Originally Posted By: SlabWhisperer
Just a note to say Thank You to all who responded publicly and by PM...
There are some very good and trustworthy individuals on this forum.
I suggest you give them a chance at your business.


So youíre paying your deductible right? Those of us that didnít got blasted by the reputable roofers of the TFF


As should all!!



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Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: SlabWhisperer] #12792622
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FYI insurance is a contract stating for a premium covered losses will be paid by insurance companions minus the insurers costs which is their premiums and deductible. No lie many donít pay deductibles but not paying deductible and contractor submitting invoice for full amount of claim like ded was paid is complete fraud and 100% against what insurance is intended to do.


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Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: SlabWhisperer] #12792626
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What I donít understand is you saying a contractor submitted an invoice and somehow committed fraud.

I just went thru this. Got my fiirst check and had mortgage company endorse it. I put it in the bank. Job was done and I notified adjuster it was finished. Adjuster paid me the 2nd check made out to me and mortgage company. I had mtg company endorse it and deposited it in my bank account. I wrote the roofer a check for an agreed amount. No one submitted any invoices. The adjuster determined the scope of work and what the claim value was.

I understand you work for an insurance company. When I sold cars I told people the MSRP was what the manufacturer determined the car was worth. This is no different in my mind. Both statements are designed to get someone to pay more than they have to.

Let me explain it a different way. If you go in for surgery and a Dr agrees to do the work for what the insurance company pays, is that fraud? Heck no...in both instances the insurance company determined what to pay.

Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: SlabWhisperer] #12792628
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Bottom line is an adjuster writes an estimate for what it should take to make customer whole. Part of insurance agreement is that customer pays deductible. If an invoice is submitted stating the entire estimated amount was needed to complete the work yet contractor doesnít collect deductible that is fraud plain and simple. Insurance companies owe for reasonable cost to make you whole and have a tool to help determine that cost that is more than plentiful for contractors. Submitting an invoice for entire amount of a claim yet claim yet not collecting a deductible is against signed contract and drives insurance premiums up. Plain and simple fact!


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Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: SlabWhisperer] #12792633
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You have been drinking too much kool aid from your training classes. If you subtract my deductible from what you pay me, whether I add that back to what I pay someone or keep it in my pocket has zero bearing on insurance costs. Youíre the one who determined the value of the job and subtracted the deductible.

Obviously we arenít going to change any ones mind here

And again.... youíre going on with the submitting an invoice stuff.

Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: SlabWhisperer] #12792729
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My previous roof when I was in Irving, Insurance came out and wrote me a check.

I fixed the house a few years later before I sold it.

I didn't go through all this BS of deductibles, etc that everyone on here talks about

Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: K.D.] #12792740
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Originally Posted By: K.D.
You have been drinking too much kool aid from your training classes. If you subtract my deductible from what you pay me, whether I add that back to what I pay someone or keep it in my pocket has zero bearing on insurance costs. Youíre the one who determined the value of the job and subtracted the deductible.

Obviously we arenít going to change any ones mind here

And again.... youíre going on with the submitting an invoice stuff.


in most cases, you have to show an executed contract or a final invoice to recieve your RCV check. So do you turn in a document with the deductible subtracted?

Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: RedRanger] #12792746
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Originally Posted By: RedRanger
My previous roof when I was in Irving, Insurance came out and wrote me a check.

I fixed the house a few years later before I sold it.

I didn't go through all this BS of deductibles, etc that everyone on here talks about


thats how it should be
depends on your policy though on wether you get 1 check, or 2

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Just trying to understand the issue from both sides in case.

* Hail damages roof.
* Claims adjuster comes out and determines how much it will cost to replace (let's say $10,000).
* Insurance company mails me a check for $9,000 because I have a deductible of $1,000.
* I call Hail Heros and they tell me they will do all the work plus will throw in a few extra things for $9,000.
* I pay $9,000 for the work when it is completed and accepted by me.

Where is the fraud? To me, the roofer is giving a discount to get the work over some other company and is on him if he wants to take the job at the agreed upon price of $9,000. I did pay a deductible in essence because the insurance kept a thousand dollars that I could have used to buy beer and sat out on the lawn watching them roof my house while I got drunk.

What am I missing?


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Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: BlueNitro] #12793236
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Originally Posted By: BlueNitro
Just trying to understand the issue from both sides in case.

* Hail damages roof.
* Claims adjuster comes out and determines how much it will cost to replace (let's say $10,000).
* Insurance company mails me a check for $9,000 because I have a deductible of $1,000.
* I call Hail Heros and they tell me they will do all the work plus will throw in a few extra things for $9,000.
* I pay $9,000 for the work when it is completed and accepted by me.

Where is the fraud? To me, the roofer is giving a discount to get the work over some other company and is on him if he wants to take the job at the agreed upon price of $9,000. I did pay a deductible in essence because the insurance kept a thousand dollars that I could have used to buy beer and sat out on the lawn watching them roof my house while I got drunk.

What am I missing?


If you have a policy that allows that, thats great.
Most in Texas are RCV policies, Texas Homeowners Policy B.
You recieve part of the settlement up front & the rest when the job is completed.
At that point you send in an invoice or receipt to show the project is complete.
Usually the fraud occurs at this point.
The policy is a contract, signed by the homeowner.

fraud probably occurs %95 of the time, in residential storm work

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Re: So... Who is a roofing contractor on TFF [Re: Westside.] #12793539
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the guy you want cant come to the internet right now


roflmao


Thatís to funny...

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