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Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: Jaret Latta] #12790183
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Just a thought but I think the weigh and release method of MLF is going to be pushed down to large tournaments and out to other tournaments as time goes on.
Maybe years from now but something like the Kayak guys do, catch get an accurate "verifiable" weight somehow and just put the fish back. Not sure of all the technical hurdles but who thought they'd be carrying an internet connected computer in the pockets and have multiple super-duper GPS units of today on their boats... not too long ago a flasher was high tech smile


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Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: Jaret Latta] #12790252
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Meh...every year the same thread. Glad we got this one out of our system. Prolly should pin it to the top so 10 more don't pop up.

BTW...Summer begins Thursday, June 21. These are Spring tournaments.


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Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: Jaret Latta] #12790297
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With over a thousand people moving to Texas a day (real statistic) and new lakes in Texas are Few and far between fishing pressures are going up and up tournament and non tournament fishing, especially at lakes near large metropolitan areas... So change will happen... Since the only thing in life that is sure bet is change


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Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: Jaret Latta] #12790301
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With over a thousand people moving to Texas a day (real statistic) and new lakes in Texas are Few and far between fishing pressures are going up and up tournament and non tournament fishing, especially at lakes near large metropolitan areas... So change will happen... Since the only thing in life that is sure bet is change


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Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: CADD] #12790336
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Originally Posted By: CADD
Just a thought but I think the weigh and release method of MLF is going to be pushed down to large tournaments and out to other tournaments as time goes on.
Maybe years from now but something like the Kayak guys do, catch get an accurate "verifiable" weight somehow and just put the fish back. Not sure of all the technical hurdles but who thought they'd be carrying an internet connected computer in the pockets and have multiple super-duper GPS units of today on their boats... not too long ago a flasher was high tech smile


I've put quite a bit of thought into having a MLF style of tournament. There are three major problems with this:

1) Where are you going to find 200+ judges that want to sit in a boat all day long and watch local amateurs fish?
2) The guys that sign up to judge are going to be your the text book potlickers that are doing nothing but hoping they draw the sticks and can find their fishing holes.
3) To actually get judges to sit in a boat all day, you'd have to pay them at least $100. Where is this money going to come from?

Local high school kids aren't the answer to judges. They have access to 10x more technology in their pocket than most of us know how to access on this computer we are typing this on. So you'd be giving your spot away to either them or their dads at home who sent their kiddos as a judge just for this reason.



Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: Jaret Latta] #12790338
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Originally Posted By: Jaret Latta
Livewell vent won't help with deep caught fish. Which is the main issue on this thread regarding Rayburn. The fin clips keep the fish upright and mainly used for big fish. Some smaller fish show no signs of inflated bladder. The big ones, every time


Yes sir, you are correct. Good point.


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Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: Outlaw Outdoors] #12790606
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No on board person for the reasons you pointed out. I'm thinking of something you carry on the boat and put fish in while being filmed that has anti cheat measures and logs the catch. While not foolproof something like this might work. It's not an easy nut to crack just a thought


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Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: Jaret Latta] #12790609
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People have been saying the MLF weigh in format is the wave of the future. Years later we are still waiting on that wave to even be a ripple.

Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: Jaret Latta] #12790614
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It will never happen for reasons stated above.

Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: BMCD] #12790709
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Originally Posted By: BMCD
It will never happen for reasons stated above.


Never say never smile give it 20~30 years... technology changes and too damn many people\people fishing will make changes happen in this state... eek


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Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: Jaret Latta] #12790833
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I am an animal lover if there ever was one. I have fed, neutered, and spayed probably 20 neighborhood animals and strays since we moved into our house. I even run water into the ditch in front of my house when it starts to dry up so the nearly grown tadpoles can turn into frogs before dying.

I work really hard to keep all my fish alive. I have probably weighed in one dead one in the last ten years. I run my aerator constantly, use ice, use Please Release Me, and check on and work with my fish constantly. Last month I stopped fishing in my club tournament to run miles to a marina to buy more ice and my fish were feisty when I released them after weigh-in as when I caught them.

I do most of my summertime fishing at night. It drives me crazy to see tournament anglers and even tournament directors allow fish to be held out of the water for long periods of time. It makes me want to ask them how long they can hold their own breaths.

That said...they are fish. It kills me for anything in my possession or around me to die, but I'm not going to wear black for a week and hold a funeral if a fish dies.

Why do we stock fish in lakes? Is it so they can have a safe space and live forever, or is it so people can use the resource and catch them?

We should all do everything we can to care for our fish, but more regulations and government involvement are the last thing we need.

Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: Razorback] #12790871
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Originally Posted By: Razorback
I am an animal lover if there ever was one. I have fed, neutered, and spayed probably 20 neighborhood animals and strays since we moved into our house. I even run water into the ditch in front of my house when it starts to dry up so the nearly grown tadpoles can turn into frogs before dying.

I work really hard to keep all my fish alive. I have probably weighed in one dead one in the last ten years. I run my aerator constantly, use ice, use Please Release Me, and check on and work with my fish constantly. Last month I stopped fishing in my club tournament to run miles to a marina to buy more ice and my fish were feisty when I released them after weigh-in as when I caught them.

I do most of my summertime fishing at night. It drives me crazy to see tournament anglers and even tournament directors allow fish to be held out of the water for long periods of time. It makes me want to ask them how long they can hold their own breaths.

That said...they are fish. It kills me for anything in my possession or around me to die, but I'm not going to wear black for a week and hold a funeral if a fish dies.

Why do we stock fish in lakes? Is it so they can have a safe space and live forever, or is it so people can use the resource and catch them?

We should all do everything we can to care for our fish, but more regulations and government involvement are the last thing we need.


You are the exception, not the average guy... and of course, there is the opposite of you that only cares about the chance at some money, bragging rights etc. and doesn't care about a few dead fish... You know like the kayak guy that cuts the tail off a fish and cheats eeks


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Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: WackySenko] #12790915
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Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: Neches] #12791125
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Ive had 20 plus pd stringers same conditions, same results on Livingston. All released healthy! Oxygenation is key. Ive fished clubs for years, same guys bring in 3dead and 2 barely living treating and cooling there livewells. Dunno maybe its the livewell design, mine is oldschool massive with a divider, Vs the new segregated. Not trying to start a argument but open ppls eyes to not treat the fish like they are in a fish tank. I had tanks in the past and the ingredients are the same as the additives that so many boast about. Think im kidding read the ingredients of tank set up chemicals!

Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: KingChamp202] #12791179
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This may have been said already, I have lost most all of my fish because they were hooked deep or the hooks got into the gills, rarely have I lost a fish in any other way, I caught one in a tourney a couple weeks ago, already had a limit, culled one and threw a perfectly healthy bass in the live well, 20 minutes later it was dead, all the others were perfectly fine, sometimes no matter what you do a bass will die.


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