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Re: Towing with 5.3 GM [Re: redchevy] #12766754
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Don't let the 5.3l taint your tastebuds for gas engines. There are a lot of great options out there that blow that engine away.

yep, like the 5.7 in a Tundra or the 6.2 in a GM. I was considering the latter until I learned that I had to get the higher trim level.


But don't kid yourself, even those pale in comparison to modern diesel performance when towing, I mean make them look flat out pathetic.


The DPF and all that [censored] is the reason I decided to go used on my first diesel, so found the '06. I may end up getting one of the new L5P's in a few years once they get the bugs worked out, but I'm more than happy with what I have.


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Originally Posted By: redchevy
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Don't let the 5.3l taint your tastebuds for gas engines. There are a lot of great options out there that blow that engine away.

yep, like the 5.7 in a Tundra or the 6.2 in a GM. I was considering the latter until I learned that I had to get the higher trim level.


But don't kid yourself, even those pale in comparison to modern diesel performance when towing, I mean make them look flat out pathetic.
I understand the diesel thing. I thought we were talking gas motors. I have never driven a 5.3 AFM and after what I have read I don't plan to just like I wont touch a Gen3 Tacoma with a car motor. I really liked my Tacomas with the 4.0 but moved up to the big leagues. Friend had a Gen3 Tacoma and hated it.


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Re: Towing with 5.3 GM [Re: dk2429] #12767652
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My point was that the 5.7 tundra use to be the Big Dog on the block. Toyota for whatever reason hasn't done chit to it in a decade and now its not the big dog on the block any more, in fact its little better than the often ridiculed and not resepcted 5.3 in performance and much worse in fuel mileage.

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Originally Posted By: redchevy
My point was that the 5.7 tundra use to be the Big Dog on the block. Toyota for whatever reason hasn't done chit to it in a decade and now its not the big dog on the block any more, in fact its little better than the often ridiculed and not resepcted 5.3 in performance and much worse in fuel mileage.
Toyota is slow to change. I think they are reluctant to change a proven design. It does put them behind in some categories like MPGs but keeps them on top of the heap in quality. I will gladly sacrifice a couple of MPGs to avoid trips to the dealer for repairs and the resale value on the back side. Tundra pulls my 22' Champ effortlessly.


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Re: Towing with 5.3 GM [Re: dk2429] #12767876
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Effortlessly don't even know its back there etc. all = BS


I agree Toyota builds a quality truck, but till I find quality problems with other brands that offer more fuel mileage less cost and I have gotten great resale out of I will not buy one.

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Originally Posted By: redchevy
Effortlessly don't even know its back there etc. all = BS


I agree Toyota builds a quality truck, but till I find quality problems with other brands that offer more fuel mileage less cost and I have gotten great resale out of I will not buy one.
ok, effortless may be exaggerating a little bit. No way I would ever say I don't know it is back there. Even on the smoothest road you are going to feel a 5,000 lb load behind any 1/2 ton and if you have an aftermarket exhaust you will hear it. Not sure about less cost. I did not price a F150 but the quotes I got for Tundras and Silverados were real close for similar trim levels.


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Re: Towing with 5.3 GM [Re: dk2429] #12768250
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You think towing with a 5.3 is bad, try my dads 4.6 Ford. Makes my 5.3 feel like it's supercharged. Good thing you guys didn't have to tow a boat in the 90s. Sounds like some of y'all would have needed a semi.



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Re: Towing with 5.3 GM [Re: dk2429] #12768293
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I guess that is something that always stuck out in my mind. My first truck was a '94 chevy with a 350. I feel like it towed every bit as well as my 5.3 did even though the 5.3 made more PEAK horsepower. The 5.3's peak HP is probably 2000 rpm past the redline on my old 350, its got more hp, but its not at an rpm that I would ever use it, pretty much same with the torque.

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You do have to rev that little 5.3 up. It doesn't hurt it. I tow with overdrive off. Sitting on 365,000 miles. Guess I'll see if it will go half a million.



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Re: Towing with 5.3 GM [Re: redchevy] #12768389
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Originally Posted By: redchevy
Effortlessly don't even know its back there etc. all = BS


I agree Toyota builds a quality truck, but till I find quality problems with other brands that offer more fuel mileage less cost and I have gotten great resale out of I will not buy one.


I'd love to see a full size, HD 3/4 ton or 1 ton dually Tundra with a diesel in it. And I'm not talking about an "eco diesel." I'm talking a full size V8 or I6 diesel putting out 900+ on torque. That'd be cool as hell!


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Re: Towing with 5.3 GM [Re: dk2429] #12768408
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The speed limit was 55 mph on most roads back in the 90's. We are asking more from our trucks than ever before.

Doesn't surprise me about the 350. I thought the 351 towed better than the first generation 5.4l. Those pushrods had some low-end torque.

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I tow with a 5.3 and have no problems whatsoever. A driver just needs to know how to drive. It's all in the gearing.


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Originally Posted By: ChuChu1
I tow with a 5.3 and have no problems whatsoever. A driver just needs to know how to drive. It's all in the gearing.


Didn't say it towed bad, but after you haul with a diesel it does.. lol

Still use the 5.3. Going camping, I pull the RV with the Duramax, whoever else is going pulls the boat with the 5.3. Not saying it pulls bad, just feels like a dog after driving a diesel for a while now.

The only vehicle we have that i can say that can't tow worth a [censored] is a 2014 Suburban with the 5.3. I know it has something to do with the gearing in it. I'm not even sure what rear end it has but it damn sure ain't for towing.. Even just the boat, thing would drop 2 gears to go over a bridge. When I DID tow with it, I would put it in manual 5th gear with tow haul mode on. It helped it a good bit. But still, gutless.

The 5.3 is started the thread about is 2003 Avalanche. That thing tows tons better than the suburban.

I even had a 2013 Silverado with the 5.3 before the suburban. That thing couldn't pull a string out of a cats [censored]. The new 5.3's don't impress me one bit. Then again, I'm sure they both have the wrong rear end in them


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Originally Posted By: ChuChu1
I tow with a 5.3 and have no problems whatsoever. A driver just needs to know how to drive. It's all in the gearing.
I agree have 5.3 in the yukon and it pulls my 20 foot boat fine, I pull my 5th wheel with the 6.2 with no problems. I think it's overkill to have a diesel just to pull a bassboat.

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The speed limit was 55 mph on most roads back in the 90's. We are asking more from our trucks than ever before.

Doesn't surprise me about the 350. I thought the 351 towed better than the first generation 5.4l. Those pushrods had some low-end torque.
I had a 1990s Bronco with a 5.4 and a 2001 F150 with a 5.4. The 2001 was the biggest piece of junk I ever owned. The Bronco did seem to tow better. I would take my 87 F150 351 H.O. over the 2001 any day. When they initially extended 635 through Irving I put my foot down towing my Ranger and next thing I know I was doing 95 with plenty of pedal left. Now MPGs were another issue. Open up that Holley and you could watch the gauge move.


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