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Cheating at Anglers Quest? #12697830
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Just looking though some tournament results and saw where Anglers Quest has posted a warning about cheating that is rumored to possibly be going on in their tourneys. Hopefully this is just sour grapes, but like the old saying goes "sometimes truth is stranger than fiction"!

There are a few rumors going around and have been brought to my attention. Whether they are true or not, Iím not sure. But let me make a few things clear on Conroe (or any tournament that I hold). It is NOT OK to get out of your boat to locate fish. It is NOT OK to have someone else on the bank locating fish for you, telling you where to flip or when to jerk. Itís just NOT cool, itís just NOT right. You will be disqualified. ( Refer to rule number 1 on the website).

Glad they are taking steps to solve the problem if that is going on. Nothing worse than a cheater.

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Re: Cheating at Anglers Quest? [Re: John Peebles] #12698156
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There wasn't a rule that covers this specifically. It does say you can't get out of the boat to land a fish. Some tournaments have a specific rule to cover this including off limits period. Your average tournament angler knows this is not allowed. However without a specific rule or the Tournament Director covering it that's going to lead to someone pushing the rule envelope.


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Re: Cheating at Anglers Quest? [Re: John Peebles] #12698235
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.... In today's world .....
One should never "ASSUME" anything.
Things have to be spelled out, stated in fact & gone over more than once.
The days of common sense are gone.
if the rules don't address it specifically then someone will do it AND get away with it.
pretty sad state of affairs,,,,, but that is where we are.

Re: Cheating at Anglers Quest? [Re: John Peebles] #12698283
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Gotta say in all my years of competitive bass fishing, and just fishing in general I never thought of getting out of the boat and walking up and down the shoreline to locate spawning fish for my partner. Damn shame what some people will do for money.

Re: Cheating at Anglers Quest? [Re: John Peebles] #12698294
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folks sometimes complain about rules but you cant let some fishermen police themselves because a few think if your not pushing the edge your not trying hard enough. as long as there is fame an money in most any kind of sport there will be some that the rules were not made for them.

Re: Cheating at Anglers Quest? [Re: John Peebles] #12698318
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I help write our rules for the THSBA and the reason there are some many rules is because people look for anyway possible to get around them. It is ridiculous to have to put every little item as a rule. Like mentioned most seasoned tournament anglers would never think of doing half of what some people try to do just because it isnít spelled out word for word in the rules.

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Re: Cheating at Anglers Quest? [Re: John Peebles] #12698321
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There is some blantant favoristim on that trail.

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Re: Cheating at Anglers Quest? [Re: John Peebles] #12698390
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Same thing happened at a BLT Tournament on Texoma 5-6 years ago. I believe the angler in question was DQ'd. Sad what guys will do for a check


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Re: Cheating at Anglers Quest? [Re: John Peebles] #12698406
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Every trail I fished even 15+ years ago had a rule that you could not leave the boat for ANY reason. Haven't read AQ rules, but I think that pretty much covers this situation. The more negative attention we put on these few anglers the less likely is it to happen. Kinda like putting a spotlight on roaches.

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sometimes there is thin line between cheating and bending the rules.....was big controversy in florida a few years ago over whether putting dog food in brushpiles was cheating or not....believe they finally put in a rule in one tournament trail that you couldn't do that...

Re: Cheating at Anglers Quest? [Re: John Peebles] #12698411
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Getting help from non tournament competitors covers some of it as well. I know for a fact that leaving the boat while tournament is underway is allowed in some trails. I left my partner with my boat last year and bought a new coil for my motor when we were having engine problems. He continued fishing while I ran to the shop. I called the TD prior to doing so then. I also have seen other guys leave the boat to use bathroom etc in that trail and its one of the larger trails.

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Originally Posted By: Kisndismis
There is some blantant favoristim on that trail.


All due respect...With 200 plus A/Q events fished since 1998, I've seen zero evidence of any kind of "favortism".
You really should explain yourself with that kind of statement...and putting your name behind it would give it any credibility its due.


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Re: Cheating at Anglers Quest? [Re: Mark Perry] #12698417
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Originally Posted By: Mark Perry
Getting help from non tournament competitors covers some of it as well. I know for a fact that leaving the boat while tournament is underway is allowed in some trails. I left my partner with my boat last year and bought a new coil for my motor when we were having engine problems. He continued fishing while I ran to the shop. I called the TD prior to doing so then. I also have seen other guys leave the boat to use bathroom etc in that trail and its one of the larger trails.


I think they meant leaving the boat to spot bedding bass or to land a fish, surely you can leave the boat to go to restrooms etc in all tournies.


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Originally Posted By: Happykamper
Originally Posted By: Mark Perry
Getting help from non tournament competitors covers some of it as well. I know for a fact that leaving the boat while tournament is underway is allowed in some trails. I left my partner with my boat last year and bought a new coil for my motor when we were having engine problems. He continued fishing while I ran to the shop. I called the TD prior to doing so then. I also have seen other guys leave the boat to use bathroom etc in that trail and its one of the larger trails.


I think they meant leaving the boat to spot bedding bass or to land a fish, surely you can leave the boat to go to restrooms etc in all tournies.


I was referring to Mr. Peebles where he posted this:

Every trail I fished even 15+ years ago had a rule that you could not leave the boat for ANY reason.

Re: Cheating at Anglers Quest? [Re: John Peebles] #12698432
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Nope I called the TD and in the trails I fished you could not get out of the boat PERIOD. Not if you had to go the the bathroom, not if you got stuck on a sandbar or stump, not to land a fish....NOT FOR ANY REASON other than an emergency. In which case you had to call the TD to inform what the emergency was. If I remember right you couldn't even use your cell phone during t hours except in an emergency.

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