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Co Angler Pack & Play - Tournament Time #12672564
03/14/18 07:16 PM
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It's tournament time next weekend, getting everything ready to go. I am positive that you are dreading reading yet another post about a Co-Angler. This is not a post of what to bring, I think most have outlined this.
- 5 or 6 Rods
- $40-50 Gas
- Small Backpack or Tackle Box (No more to fit under the dash than what makes you comfortable)
- Snacks
- Cull System
My question is, how often and what is the best way to stay organized in the back of the boat, but to maximize efficiency and catching fish? We all get lazy on the water and don't want to change lures, or feel that because we caught one small fish we will keep this lure on. Do you have a time breakdown that you use i.e. 15 minute pattern? System that you use i.e. Crankabits, spinnerbaits, plastics, jigs?
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Zach

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Re: Co Angler Pack & Play - Tournament Time [Re: Lunker23] #12672571
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I haven't done it, but I am sure talking to your pro the night before is critical to what you will tie at the hotel room.

Re: Co Angler Pack & Play - Tournament Time [Re: Lunker23] #12672581
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Overthinking it IMO, I got on with a guy last week for the first time and took 4 rods, small tackle bag, he had a cooler for me to put a subway and 4 drinks in, never had issue. I guess there are some real azholes when it comes to boaters and co anglers and it makes everyone seem to not want to do the wrong thing. This is not an etiquette thing, its common sense. These posts go on for pages and pages too, dont know why its such a hard thing to figure out, maybe its just me.


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Re: Co Angler Pack & Play - Tournament Time [Re: Lunker23] #12672590
03/14/18 07:34 PM
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Keep it simple IMO. Finesse lures that you can fish shallow, deep, swim, drag, etc.. That won't get hung up much. If you throw a worm behind someone for 6 to 8 hours you will catch fish.


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Re: Co Angler Pack & Play - Tournament Time [Re: LakeForkGroupie] #12672593
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I agree. In addition to that, most times the pairings are done the night before the tournament. In this case, i am staying at a hotel for the torunament the next morning. Am i supposed to bring all my extra tackle with me in my vehicle? Do my best to make a sound decision on lake patterns before i go? Obviously a boater has more room in the boat for tackle. I've always wondered about that.


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Re: Co Angler Pack & Play - Tournament Time [Re: Kisndismis] #12672595
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Thanks for the reply. My questions isn't geared towards what to bring or not to bring. I was asking if there is a system that any of the guys use to be more efficient on the water? Are people changing lures every X amount of minutes? What is everyone doing new, or differently to be more effective on the water.


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Re: Co Angler Pack & Play - Tournament Time [Re: Brent S] #12672598
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Agreed. Finesse tactics seem to work in any body of water. It is an absolute must have for a guy in the back of the boat.


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Re: Co Angler Pack & Play - Tournament Time [Re: Lunker23] #12672604
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Unless conditions call for something special, go with a versatile bait and keep it in the water.


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Re: Co Angler Pack & Play - Tournament Time [Re: Brent S] #12672609
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Thanks for your input Brent!


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Re: Co Angler Pack & Play - Tournament Time [Re: Lunker23] #12672830
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I've fished as a co-angler for the last 7 years or so. I bring extra tackle with me in the truck, but what I take on the boat consists of 5 rods and a 5 plastic box bag. I always ask my pro the night before if we are fishing shallow, mid, deep, or both and then tie on accordingly. If you use cranks/traps specifically you can buy different variations of quick change tackle clips https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/norman-lures-speed-clips?hvarAID=shopping_googleproductextensions. These allow you to change lures quickly in the event you need to.

In my bag I usually have 1 box of terminal tackle/weights, and 4 boxes for lures I might use. Topwater/shallow moving baits/deep moving baits, finesse baits, 4-6 bags of plastics that I plan on possibly using, a small culling system(required by some tournaments now), pliers, scissors, 10 inch culling bar, 1 extra spool of line, and a small hook remover https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/eagle-claw-6-3-4-hook-remover?storeId=10151&catalogId=10051 (for those ones that swallowed it.) And a big tube of sun screen - probably the most important thing in the bag!

Add some gas money in your pocket, a small sack lunch, and some rain gear if the weather is looking poor, and you should be good.

As far as patterning, if the boater keeps his foot on the trolling motor constantly it makes it really hard for a co to finesse a worm around because you are usually dragging pretty quickly. If you need a slower presentation you can't beat a carolina rig on the back of the boat with either a light weight for shallow/on top of grass, or a heavy weight 1oz for deeper water. You can also utilize weedless moving baits pretty well such as swim jigs, spinner baits, or swimbaits.

Prespawn/postspawn anything shad colored or crawfish colored. During the spawn for tournaments are tough on coanglers if it is a sightfishing tournament. Bring a black/blue or green pumpkin jig and be ready to flip everything behind the boater, or throw a senko around.


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Re: Co Angler Pack & Play - Tournament Time [Re: Lunker23] #12672842
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1. Talk with the pro to get an idea the night before.
2. Fish the water and conditions. Your there to win your side of the tournament. To me just dragging a finesse worm because you don't want to bother the boater is a waste time. If your not going out there to do what it takes to win then why bother. Maybe that will be a finesse worm at times but I wouldn't limit myself. Talk to the boater and make a decision on what you think you will want and make up a little tackle bag. So yea, I would take all my tackle for the most part so I could sift thru what I need and take out or add to the bag for the day

Re: Co Angler Pack & Play - Tournament Time [Re: Lunker23] #12672875
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Keep a Gary Yamamoto Swim Senko on a rod at all times. It can multitask like no other bait. Keep a drop shot capable rod with you....just in case it gets to that point during the tourney. Keep a flipping rod rigged. Maybe a medium cranking rod for a lipless.

More than that, and you'll just waste time over thinking [censored].

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Re: Co Angler Pack & Play - Tournament Time [Re: Lunker23] #12672977
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Drag a C-rig senko around and you'll be just fine.


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Re: Co Angler Pack & Play - Tournament Time [Re: Texas Joker] #12673302
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That is all great information. I always worry about my vehicle being broken into at tournaments, but having the extra tackle seems to work out. Those are all items that I carry with me, I will have to add in the bump board.


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Re: Co Angler Pack & Play - Tournament Time [Re: the skipper] #12673305
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Right on. I appreciate all the info. It looks like I will be losing up the tackle. Luckily the wife bought me a box that holds 6 3700 size boxes in it, should make it easier to carry into the hotel atleast. I would like to win all the events on the co angler side.


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