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Tournaments and the Spawn #12665478
03/09/18 07:47 PM
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Do you think relocating female bass during the spawn (tournaments/livewell to weigh in site) has a negative effect on the overall abundance of bass actually produced yearly through reproduction? Or do you think the big females released after tournaments still go spawn and have a productive result for the fishery.

Re: Tournaments and the Spawn [Re: GROD] #12665510
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43 of you read this but don’t have an opinion.... right on.

Re: Tournaments and the Spawn [Re: GROD] #12665516
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I’ve been wondering the same thing. Haven’t researched it myself though

Re: Tournaments and the Spawn [Re: GROD] #12665523
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Nope. I am happy the way things are. I am not a biologist and just cause I fish does not make me know more than they do. I trust the professionals that set the seasons and limits. They allow fishing during the spawn and I trust them.

Re: Tournaments and the Spawn [Re: GROD] #12665524
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Fishing in general was not the question... relocating. I should have worded it better.

Re: Tournaments and the Spawn [Re: GROD] #12665530
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Originally Posted By: GROD
Fishing in general was not the question... relocating. I should have worded it better.


My answer is still no. I don't think a huge percentage of the overall number of bass that are spawning even get caught during the spawn.

Re: Tournaments and the Spawn [Re: GROD] #12665538
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Good point. Think that may depend on the body of water and many other variables, but still good point.

Re: Tournaments and the Spawn [Re: GROD] #12665543
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You can't say they aren't affected. I bet it has some negative, but that negative is tiny. I think they still lay their eggs, just in different places. That of course depends if they weren't killed from being caught, kept, and released.


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Re: Tournaments and the Spawn [Re: GROD] #12665573
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Without a doubt I know it has some impact. The bulk of the fishing community is gonna turn a blind eye to it, I mean you would destroy the sport if you let it. We all read about it all the time, guys on here complain about a fishery being over fished.

Re: Tournaments and the Spawn [Re: GROD] #12665589
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I think water temp trumps everything. The #1 reason a fish doesn't dump eggs and they absorb them is water temps rise then fall drastically. If water temp stays where it needs to be, the fish will spawn successfully. I doubt relocation has much to do with it. But I'm sure it affects it somehow. Just my thinking...


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Re: Tournaments and the Spawn [Re: GROD] #12665602
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http://myfwc.com/research/freshwater/sport-fishes/largemouth-bass/bed-fishing-research/

Not exactly answering your question, but some interesting insight nonetheless.

Also from BassFan:
"Secondly, the study does nothing to simulate the impact of tournament fishing. As you all know, I’m often both in favor and critical of the impact of organized fishing. I’ve often wondered: What is the impact of pulling a spawning bass off of a bed, hauling it 20 miles away, and releasing it 8 hours later?

Believe it or not, my scientist contacts feel it may not be as drastic as I thought. They argue that many bass spawn numerous times, especially in Florida, and that a lot of those transplanted fish will still contribute to the population.

In addition, studies are showing that, overall, Florida-strain bass are much more difficult to catch than other bass species, and that, despite the efforts of the world’s best anglers, most remain uncaught."







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Good read. Thank you

Re: Tournaments and the Spawn [Re: GROD] #12665653
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Catch and release, probably not much of a negative effect on that particular fish. Tournament fish, definitely a negative effect on that particular fish spawning. Especially when a percentage of those fish will die. How much does it affect the overall population? Too hard to say definitively, too many variables that will determine how many fry survive a spawn and grow to adult size. If there was not a high mortality rate for fish fry, then they would only have a few eggs rather than thousands.



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Originally Posted By: GROD
43 of you read this but don’t have an opinion.... right on.

Maybe ...sometimes. JK - no, there are so many eggs and fry that will succumb to Ma Nature by design the only thing it probably does is move a few bass from place to place, who knows may even be good for the lake overall.


Re: Tournaments and the Spawn [Re: GROD] #12665704
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Originally Posted By: GROD
Do you think relocating female bass during the spawn (tournaments/livewell to weigh in site) has a negative effect on the overall abundance of bass actually produced yearly through reproduction? Or do you think the big females released after tournaments still go spawn and have a productive result for the fishery.


I think it depends on the health of the fish once it's released. If she was mishandled than she may expire. If she is handled properly, then yes I think she would go onto spawn and reproduce successfully.

Case in point, Dottie the Giant bass from Lake Dixon, California was caught at least 3 times over the years and most likely died of natural causes/old age. She was found floating dead three months after she was released from being caught off a bed weighing 25 pounds.

Also, I believe there are a large percentage of bass that never come to the shoreline to spawn. I think they dump their eggs in deep water somewhere like maybe a bridge cross member and move on. I think fishing pressure forces many of the large females to do this.

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