texasfishingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
NTX-FISHon, scott100, Monty97, MiggyFishing, PierceBull12
109277 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
TexDawg 90,112
hopalong 78,911
Pilothawk 77,534
John175® 69,838
JDavis7873® 67,393
Derek 🐝 61,678
Tritonman 58,395
LoneStarSon® 54,816
Mark Perry 54,792
facebook
Forum Statistics
Forums60
Topics777,168
Posts13,000,787
Members109,277
Most Online36,273
Jan 23rd, 2013
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Is paper weight charts that far off from scale weight? #12612576
02/06/18 12:46 AM
02/06/18 12:46 AM
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 218
Houston county, Grapeland
J
johnathonmharding Offline OP
Outdoorsman
johnathonmharding  Offline OP
Outdoorsman
J

Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 218
Houston county, Grapeland
Caught A 23 1/2" on houston county which is an over for us put her on the scale and only gave a measly 6 1/2, paper weight chart says 23 1/2" should weigh 8.31 give or take. But would it b that drastic of a weight gap?


Bass Fishing Ad
Re: Is paper weight charts that far off from scale weight? [Re: johnathonmharding] #12612595
02/06/18 01:04 AM
02/06/18 01:04 AM
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,800
Godley Tx
D
Dubee Offline
Extreme Angler
Dubee  Offline
Extreme Angler
D

Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,800
Godley Tx
Paper charts are a joke

Re: Is paper weight charts that far off from scale weight? [Re: johnathonmharding] #12612597
02/06/18 01:07 AM
02/06/18 01:07 AM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 612
Newton, TX USA
R
RBO Offline
Pro Angler
RBO  Offline
Pro Angler
R

Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 612
Newton, TX USA
You need to push them up to where the mouth is closed. Just by the pic, it's looks like it would go about 22.25 which would be about 6.5 lb by your chart.

Re: Is paper weight charts that far off from scale weight? [Re: johnathonmharding] #12612609
02/06/18 01:15 AM
02/06/18 01:15 AM
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 218
Houston county, Grapeland
J
johnathonmharding Offline OP
Outdoorsman
johnathonmharding  Offline OP
Outdoorsman
J

Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 218
Houston county, Grapeland
I measured proper weigh but couldnt hold it and take pic with one hand


Re: Is paper weight charts that far off from scale weight? [Re: johnathonmharding] #12612847
02/06/18 03:24 AM
02/06/18 03:24 AM
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 40
BrandonF Offline
Outdoorsman
BrandonF  Offline
Outdoorsman

Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 40
All depends on the fish & it's habitat. I've brought plenty 22" fish to the the weigh in on Georgetown weighing in the 5lb range. Had fish on Lake Austin (back when it had grass) short & fat. This one was 24" flat, 10.13lbs

Re: Is paper weight charts that far off from scale weight? [Re: johnathonmharding] #12612859
02/06/18 03:33 AM
02/06/18 03:33 AM
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 2,350
McKinney, TX
D
David Burton Online confused
Extreme Angler
David Burton  Online Confused
Extreme Angler
D

Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 2,350
McKinney, TX
That is a skinny fish. You get credit on paper for weight taken away on that pot-bellied 15" weighing 3+lb.

Northern strain tend to be lean and mean like your fish... Also, males tend to be lean and mean like your fish...

We had an over on Athens once that on paper was credited 10.25lbs. It actually weighed 6.75lbs, like yours!

Last edited by David Burton; 02/06/18 03:34 AM.

David Burton
2015 Skeeter FX 21

...and down goes PhotoBucket with the new Terms of Service... I predict they will be out of business or begging for forgiveness inside a month. 6/30/2017
Re: Is paper weight charts that far off from scale weight? [Re: BrandonF] #12612861
02/06/18 03:33 AM
02/06/18 03:33 AM
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 362
Kansas
H
H2ODawg67 Offline
Angler
H2ODawg67  Offline
Angler
H

Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 362
Kansas
Originally Posted By: BrandonF
All depends on the fish & it's habitat. I've brought plenty 22" fish to the the weigh in on Georgetown weighing in the 5lb range. Had fish on Lake Austin (back when it had grass) short & fat. This one was 24" flat, 10.13lbs


Nice fish and cool pic. cheers


Formerly H2ODawg
Re: Is paper weight charts that far off from scale weight? [Re: Dubee] #12612894
02/06/18 03:52 AM
02/06/18 03:52 AM
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 3,704
Tyler, TX, USA
R
Razorback Offline
TFF Team Angler
Razorback  Offline
TFF Team Angler
R

Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 3,704
Tyler, TX, USA
Originally Posted By: Dubee
Paper charts are a joke


Yes, they are. Some fish are fat, some are skinny. The chart doesn't measure that. That's why I like actually bringing fish to the scales.

Re: Is paper weight charts that far off from scale weight? [Re: H2ODawg67] #12612912
02/06/18 04:07 AM
02/06/18 04:07 AM
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 40
BrandonF Offline
Outdoorsman
BrandonF  Offline
Outdoorsman

Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 40
Originally Posted By: H2ODawg67
Originally Posted By: BrandonF
All depends on the fish & it's habitat. I've brought plenty 22" fish to the the weigh in on Georgetown weighing in the 5lb range. Had fish on Lake Austin (back when it had grass) short & fat. This one was 24" flat, 10.13lbs


Nice fish and cool pic. cheers

Thanks! We sure were blessed for a few years here.

Re: Is paper weight charts that far off from scale weight? [Re: johnathonmharding] #12613039
02/06/18 12:11 PM
02/06/18 12:11 PM
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 761
barbarian Online content
Pro Angler
barbarian  Online Content
Pro Angler

Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 761
Lots of variables involved like time of year, lake, DNA, etc. But more times than not, the paper chart is on the high side.

Re: Is paper weight charts that far off from scale weight? [Re: johnathonmharding] #12613085
02/06/18 01:09 PM
02/06/18 01:09 PM
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,967
Texas
B
Brad R Offline
Extreme Angler
Brad R  Offline
Extreme Angler
B

Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,967
Texas
Paper guesstimates aren't a "joke," they are just averages.

For all the men on this forum who are 6 feet tall, there is an average weight but individuals will vary quite a lot. I suspect 15" bass don't deviate from the average nearly as much as 6' men do.

TPWD makes no claim that it will accurately reflect the LMB you catch.

There sample size was 3,178 fish and that isn't very many to cover fish from 10" to 30" measured incrementally every 1/8th of an inch.

My guess would be that it is more accurate at the lower lengths, a very rough statistic at the top end. How many 29" bass were weighed?

***What I think would be a cool statistic is for people to catch a bass, record what they "think" it weighs prior to weighing it, compare that to what it actually weighs on a scale. Some experienced anglers will be very accurate I suspect.

Brad

Re: Is paper weight charts that far off from scale weight? [Re: Brad R] #12613244
02/06/18 02:46 PM
02/06/18 02:46 PM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 606
College Station, TX
B
Bug-e Offline
Pro Angler
Bug-e  Offline
Pro Angler
B

Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 606
College Station, TX
Originally Posted By: Brad R
Paper guesstimates aren't a "joke," they are just averages.

For all the men on this forum who are 6 feet tall, there is an average weight but individuals will vary quite a lot. I suspect 15" bass don't deviate from the average nearly as much as 6' men do.

TPWD makes no claim that it will accurately reflect the LMB you catch.

There sample size was 3,178 fish and that isn't very many to cover fish from 10" to 30" measured incrementally every 1/8th of an inch.

My guess would be that it is more accurate at the lower lengths, a very rough statistic at the top end. How many 29" bass were weighed?

***What I think would be a cool statistic is for people to catch a bass, record what they "think" it weighs prior to weighing it, compare that to what it actually weighs on a scale. Some experienced anglers will be very accurate I suspect.

Brad


Hey Brad,
Great points. The regression analysis is not a joke. It's probably most accurate right around the median fish length. The 95% confidence intervals of regression lines/slopes are almost always the smallest near the median value and get wider the lower and higher you get (out at the tails). Here's an example below. But as you and others note there's a lot of variation among male and female bass, spawn versus late summer, etc. Heck if a fish eats a big meal right before you catch it that will almost certainly result in the paper chart/regression under estimating the bass's weight.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/5789135/figure/fig9/AS:281291699310595@1444076575363/Figure-1-Linear-regression-analysis-95-confidence-interval-of-LM13LM09-ratio.png

Re: Is paper weight charts that far off from scale weight? [Re: johnathonmharding] #12613251
02/06/18 02:50 PM
02/06/18 02:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 48,100
Houston, TX
fouzman Offline
Methuselah
fouzman  Offline
Methuselah

Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 48,100
Houston, TX
Paper charts that do not incorporate girth are worthless unless the chart is specific to that water body. The charts that incorporate length and girth are more accurate.


"Things turn out best for those who make the best of the way things turn out" - Zachary Troy Schrah - a young man with vision far beyond his years.
Re: Is paper weight charts that far off from scale weight? [Re: Dubee] #12613409
02/06/18 04:12 PM
02/06/18 04:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,433
North Richland Hills, TX
Fishinfellow Online content
TFF Team Angler
Fishinfellow  Online Content
TFF Team Angler

Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,433
North Richland Hills, TX
Originally Posted By: johnathonmharding
should weigh 8.31 give or take

^^roflmao^^
Originally Posted By: Dubee
Paper charts are a joke

This! Too many times, paper club members go out and say "I caught 30 lbs!" you see the pictures and its 18-22 lbs...


Thats my money fish

Kris Winhold
Re: Is paper weight charts that far off from scale weight? [Re: johnathonmharding] #12613451
02/06/18 04:42 PM
02/06/18 04:42 PM
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 6,681
Temple, TX.
T
T Bird Offline
TFF Celebrity
T Bird  Offline
TFF Celebrity
T

Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 6,681
Temple, TX.
Fayette County fish and paper weight charts can be pretty close.





Page 1 of 2 1 2
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread


© 1998-2018 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
UBB.threads™ 7.6.2