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Re: White bass setup
[Re: waffles]
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01/20/18 02:49 PM
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TCK73
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Personally, I would look for a Med Lt rod 7 and pick a reel to finish out your budget. Check Academy clearance section on their website. They often have some great buys on their H20 rods which I have found to be well worth the money.
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Re: White bass setup
[Re: waffles]
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01/20/18 03:44 PM
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waffles
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Ok, so what would be a good spinning reel
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Re: White bass setup
[Re: waffles]
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01/20/18 03:49 PM
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Dennis Christian
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A smooth reeling bait casting reel has more feel for the frequent light bite of a white bass. Of course, what you choose depends on how you fish for them. If you are using the rod to move the lure - like working the lure under the boat - a smooth reel is not as important. Making sure the rod is not too limber may be more important than the reel. But, if you use my technique (described in the links in my signature block), where I am reeling the lure to present it to the fish, then a smooth reel is very important. A smooth reel for $59 carried at Academy is H2O XPRESS Mettle MT2 Baitcast Reel. For rods using my method, I prefer shorter rods (less wiggling as I reel) - say 5 ft 6 in - and medium action. I also like to hold the rod close to my body for better control, so I prefer short handles - like pistol grip.
Last edited by Dennis Christian; 01/20/18 03:50 PM.
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Re: White bass setup
[Re: waffles]
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01/21/18 09:09 PM
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Grainraiser
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That combo you posted is a UL setup which is not ideal for white bass/crappie. What you want is a medium light action rod with 20 or 2000 series spinning reel. If shopping at Academy you can get a Shimano Sienna 2000 series reel and the Daiwa Laguna 7ft medium light spinning rod for the same exact price as that combo you posted. It would be a perfect setup.
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Re: White bass setup
[Re: waffles]
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01/22/18 01:20 AM
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Bilboinsa
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I would not sweat the setups. In the last month, I have caught whites on entry level daiwa spincast combos, huge Garcia spinner on a medium 6.5 Ugly Stick, and Frankenstein Lews baitcasting combos. Throw what you are comfortable using. Throw lures you have confidence in. Have fun!
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Re: White bass setup
[Re: waffles]
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01/22/18 12:23 PM
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Skunked Again Fishing
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I find that the best reels for the money are the Okuma Avengers. I used to buy the expensive stuff for the coast, but they'd only last 2-3 years before grinding and sticking. The Avengers have lasted 6-7 years so far, and have brought in 35+ inch reds. When I take them apart to clean, I notice they have a rubber gasket between the 2 halves. They go for about $30-$35 each. Sure, there are better and lighter ones, but for the price, they can't be beat. 20 series is good for whites and LMB. Good luck
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Re: White bass setup
[Re: waffles]
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01/22/18 01:00 PM
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Dennis Christian
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Grainraiser: My set-up is strictly for the way I fish the Mepps spinner for white bass (see article and video). I've been at it since 1976, so I arrived at it after much time using various set-ups. For the Mepps method, I have found that those who try it with an open face spinning reel don't do well. Even a spincast works better. Those who do the best use a set-up similar to what I describe - a very smooth casting reel is the most important part of it. The bite is usually extremely light and the smooth reel lets you feel it better. One of the things I sometimes do is hold my finger on the line where it enters the reel - to give me better feel. You can't do that on an open face spinning reel. Re what's best for crappie, I haven't the slightest idea.
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Re: White bass setup
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01/22/18 09:32 PM
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Brad R
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Dennis, I wonder if there is an adaptation for spinning tackle for your Mepps technique where you'd simply place your index finger up on the line (just as if you were getting ready to make a cast before opening its bail), then release it for the 5 or 6 winding rotations you make repeatedly as you recommend on the retrieve.
Spinning gear would certainly improve casting a tiny Mepps Aglia short distances. It'd seem to work better working with smaller lines, too.
Thoughts only . . . I wouldn't argue with 40+ years of experience. I've made notes regarding your technique, watched the video many times.
Brad
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Re: White bass setup
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01/22/18 10:35 PM
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Skunked Again Fishing
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Dennis: What a great technique. I can see how having a spinning rod makes this technique very difficult because the line wouldn't spool off easily. I'll have to try that next time I'm sitting over a hump or point. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: White bass setup
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01/23/18 01:58 AM
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Dennis Christian
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Bard R: Re weight, you need the weight of a #4 to get the bait down to the bottom faster. That weight makes it plenty heavy enough to cast reasonable distances (25 yards). When fishing a #2 or #3 I add weight up the line about 15 inches to accomplish distance and faster sinking. Re how to finesse a spinning reel, that's left for someone who likes them to try.
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Re: White bass setup
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01/23/18 03:05 AM
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SeaPro-Todd
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I've started out with spinning reel because of the light mepps. I did caught fish on spinning reel but after many comparisons, the baitcast will catch more fish mainly because 1) you can thumb release/drop the mepps easily as you work it back to the boat (saw tooth pattern) 2) the retrieval will be smoother and you can feel the bite much better. Remember with mepps the bite will be 95% on retrieval, which is opposite of slabs.
Newbies can cast the mepps farther with spinner. But with patience and practice you can cast as far with baitcast reel.
I am not used to talking mepps or seeing mepps posts in mid winter! Lol But it's feeshing you have to adapt and it's also fun learning something new too lol.
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Re: White bass setup
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01/23/18 11:53 PM
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Jim Ford
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That combo you posted is a UL setup which is not ideal for white bass/crappie. What you want is a medium light action rod with 20 or 2000 series spinning reel. If shopping at Academy you can get a Shimano Sienna 2000 series reel and the Daiwa Laguna 7ft medium light spinning rod for the same exact price as that combo you posted. It would be a perfect setup. Not trying to pick a fight; don't take this as a personal assault. But I'm curious as to why you feel an ultralight setup is not ideal for whites and crappies.
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Re: White bass setup
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01/24/18 04:54 AM
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Grainraiser
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That combo you posted is a UL setup which is not ideal for white bass/crappie. What you want is a medium light action rod with 20 or 2000 series spinning reel. If shopping at Academy you can get a Shimano Sienna 2000 series reel and the Daiwa Laguna 7ft medium light spinning rod for the same exact price as that combo you posted. It would be a perfect setup. Not trying to pick a fight; don't take this as a personal assault. But I'm curious as to why you feel an ultralight setup is not ideal for whites and crappies. There is really no right or wrong answer. It's based on personal preference based on the type of fishing you do.
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