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Please do NOT eat any species of Buffalo! #12475178
10/23/17 12:22 AM
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While recently fly fishing the Trinity River, I saw a family of four carrying a stringer (possibly 8-10) buffalo back to their vehicle. At the time I didn't say anything, but as I thought of it I wish I did. Some of you may know, but the buffalo (white, smallmouth, bigmouth, etc.) CAN and WILL cause Haff Disease if you are not careful. Especially in the Trinity River. Just advising everyone. Y'all be safe and make sure you do your research before you attempt to consume any fish from our waters! God Bless.

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Re: Please do NOT eat any species of Buffalo! [Re: DancesWithSquirrels] #12475556
10/23/17 01:20 PM
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Okay, I believe you.

But how do they get around this, when you see Buffalo in a fish market?

I would hope they are not selling infected fish.


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Re: Please do NOT eat any species of Buffalo! [Re: DancesWithSquirrels] #12475572
10/23/17 01:38 PM
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https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00056038.htm

Huh. The CDC report shows cases in three other states, but the only case it mentions in Texas was in 1984. What information do you have about this disease being present in Texas now?


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Re: Please do NOT eat any species of Buffalo! [Re: DancesWithSquirrels] #12475603
10/23/17 02:08 PM
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A few years ago, while crappie fishing, I caught a huge Buffalo that we estimated to be around forty pounds. We turned him loose, but because that was the first Buffalo I ever caught, I did quite a lot of internet research on the species. I was surprised to learn that Buffalo was excellent table fare and sold in many fish markets. I did encounter some info regarding Haff Disease. At that time, most of the articles I found said Haff Disease was limited to fish that came from the Mississippi River Basin. I assumed that meant Texas Buffalo were safe. Today, I found some info that a few cases of Haff Disease occurred in Texas many years ago. Accordingly, I noticed you identified the Trinity as particularly dangerous. It appears that bottom feeding creatures, including carp, Buffalo, and crawfish can pick up a toxin while eating the roots of certain aquatic plants. That toxin causes Haff Disease in humans. I suppose that not a great deal of people eat carp or buffalo, but crawfish is certainly a hot item in the South.

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Re: Please do NOT eat any species of Buffalo! [Re: DancesWithSquirrels] #12476048
10/23/17 07:24 PM
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Correct, there aren't too many known cases in Texas. Primarily Louisana, parts of the Mississippi, and the Trinity. This family took them from the Trinity, so I was just giving out a warning. Buffalo are detrivores, and eat the sediment and eroded waste and soil from rocks and the bottom. Right where the pollution lurks. Thanks to y'all for the information and feedback, it's up to us to educate future fishermen about the dangers of consuming certain fish from certain locations.

Re: Please do NOT eat any species of Buffalo! [Re: DancesWithSquirrels] #12476174
10/23/17 09:16 PM
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Depends on which part of the Trinity. Those toxins are the reason for the consumption ban on the main fork. If you're on the Elm Fork, say, between LL and RR or in Irving then you are good to go...

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Re: Please do NOT eat any species of Buffalo! [Re: DancesWithSquirrels] #12477560
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... because fish never moves between forks

Re: Please do NOT eat any species of Buffalo! [Re: DancesWithSquirrels] #12477614
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Lots of Asians eat buffalo........they pressure cook the bones out of the fish and it is considered a delicacy.


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Re: Please do NOT eat any species of Buffalo! [Re: DancesWithSquirrels] #12477643
10/25/17 12:06 AM
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When I was a kid, folks used to come and gill net our 77 acre lake for Buffalo. I didn't even know the fish were in the lake. I always heard the Buffalo were turned into gefilte fish for the kosher market.

Re: Please do NOT eat any species of Buffalo! [Re: DancesWithSquirrels] #12477859
10/25/17 02:20 AM
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Don't worry the only buffalo I will eat has four legs.

Re: Please do NOT eat any species of Buffalo! [Re: DancesWithSquirrels] #12477877
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what about tilapia?

Re: Please do NOT eat any species of Buffalo! [Re: DancesWithSquirrels] #12480515
10/27/17 01:55 AM
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I should've specified where I was talking about on the Trinity, but I don't wanna give away my spot so smile

Re: Please do NOT eat any species of Buffalo! [Re: DancesWithSquirrels] #12480733
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Buffalo is one of the most tastiest fresh water fish in Texas! And is STILL one of the most popular fish sold by commercial fishermen.

Re: Please do NOT eat any species of Buffalo! [Re: DancesWithSquirrels] #12481068
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A few months ago, I was watching a Saturday morning food show. On that day, they were featuring some of the most popular restaurant offerings around the USA. One that caught my eye was a cafe up in the Midwest where their specialty dish was fried carp. Seriously, they had a huge local following. They were frying large sections of whole fish with the bones intact. The show host interviewed several of the diners and they all said they had come to this place for years because the carp was so delicious. Live and learn, I guess.

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