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SeaCast.? Arjay? me transom is Mush....... #12467550
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Anybody use it for transom rebuild? Happy with it.?

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I've had a boat I almost finished rebuilding and then traded that had a seacast transom and it looked super solid. From what I've heard, people love it. VERY solid, if anything the only problem I've heard is that it's so solid that if the rest of your boat around where you poured is soft, it'll then tear that out too. Super solid stuff. Make sure you install correctly and take your time, I know a member on the forum who hadn't sealed where he was pouring well enough and poured a bunch into his bilge area that leaked out.


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I think T-racer may have been talking about me. I poured mine about a year ago but I used Arjay ceramic pourable transom. This is the second boat that I have done and they both came out solid as a rock. The only hard part is removing the old wood. If you don't properly cover any hole, it will leak out and mine was about 2 inches thick in the bilge. Took me weeks with a hammer and chisel to remove most of it so I really know how solid it will get! If you have any specific questions send me a PM and I'll give you my number.

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Hahaha maybe it was you Bobby banana


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Re: SeaCast.? [Re: Bobby Milam] #12473398
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Originally Posted By: Bobby Milam
I think T-racer may have been talking about me. I poured mine about a year ago but I used Arjay ceramic pourable transom. This is the second boat that I have done and they both came out solid as a rock. The only hard part is removing the old wood. If you don't properly cover any hole, it will leak out and mine was about 2 inches thick in the bilge. Took me weeks with a hammer and chisel to remove most of it so I really know how solid it will get! If you have any specific questions send me a PM and I'll give you my number.


Where did you buy the Arjay?

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http://www.arjaytech.com/index.php/about-us/distribution

I think the distributor was in Houston.

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Instead of a tru cap that overlaps and riveted on both sides like Most Aluminum Deep Vs this Turd has the inner transom wall/splash well wall folded over then riveted on the outside so I have to drill the rivets and either Fold it Up or cut it off - I couldn't bend it much so I had to cut it off. Once the lifting ring bolt comes in I'll pull the motor and cut off the cap across where motor sits. I don't want to cut the Slanted parts so I gotta figure out a pourable transom soution BUT the transom has no bottom to it. Looking from underneath from the Bilge you see Plywood - 2 layers of 3/4" and a layer of 1/2". It goes straight across about top 1/3 of the transducer plate leaving about 4" of the deepest part of the V for Bilge area.. so I have to figure out how to close it off for a Pour. bang





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If I can't figure out how to seal it up for a pour and cut the caps all the way around and do wood - any recommendations on somewhere to get caps welded back on?

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Well I Finally got All the Wood out. gotta figure out a bottom so I can pour the transom.......probally gonna rivet in a section of C channel.


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That’s a lot of work, but necessary. Looks like you are doing a good job. thumb

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Whatever you use, remember to take into consideration the weight of 7-10 gallons of the stuff. It is pretty heavy and trust me you do not want to let it leak into the bottom of the boat. The Arjay starts to harden in 15-20 minutes. If I were doing it, I'd mix a gallon or two and pour so it will be less weight then start mixing the rest so it will be ready to pour about the time the first layer starts to harden and will hopefully bonds to the metal to support the weight and it should still be tacky enough that the 2nd pour bonds with the first pour so it becomes one solid piece.

Use metal shingles or something to wedge into the opening to work as a funnel and be sure to use a rubber mallet to tap the outside to remove any air bubbles. A second pair of hands and probably a step stool will make it much easier.

That looks pretty thick. How many gallons did you end up calculating it to take?

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I'm figuring 8 gallons? ordered 10 gallons. Some have said it won't work with Aluminum but I found several threads on iboats.com n other forums where guys have used it in Aluminum boats. I took 2 sections of 1" aluminum square tubing and screwed them together with 3m 5200 between them and riveted them in the bottom of the transom to pour on top of.

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Went with Arjay 6011 from ProMarine Supplies. Stage 1 poured today. I'll pour Stage II tomorrow. I emailed Arjay and asked if it could be poured over foam - they said as long as Acetone doesn't eat the foam it'll work. So I sprayed some Loctite Brand Spray Foam in a cup and let it cure overnite then poured Acetone on it- held up. I sprayed Loctite Spray Foam in an Aluminum tamale pot , let it sit overnite and poured a Gallon of Arjay over it the next day- then cut it in half the following day. Looked good to me, So I used Loctite Spray Foam to seal off areas I couldn't reach to put tape. I used 2 layers of duct foil tape to seal off holes like engine mounting bolts and drain tube holes. I poured with all the thru bolts installed so it wouldn't bulge the transom.

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Looks like a brick I will keep following to see how it works out I read the same stuff you did.

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Looks good. It will be hard as a rock when you are done. I've been happy with mine. Yours is definitely going faster than mine did.

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Stage II





Took just under 9 gallons - not much left in 9th gallon tho so call it 9 gallons. I ordered 10 gallons but used 1 gallon in the Tamale pot. I was gonna see about getting the caps I cutoff - welded back on - but I stuck some bolts down in it and thinking the bolts and a bunch of 3m 5200 may do it. hmmm

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Those bolts don’t look like stainless steel, are they?

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Nope just reg zinc coated steel. Wanted aluminum. They will get 5200 coated so should be 5200 between aluminum and bolt then cut off flush with nut and coated with 5200. Not the prettiest but I'm NOT entering her into any boat shows..... nuts As long as the Trophy Blue Cats don't care- wont matter to me...... fish

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Worst case if they ever do rust out somehow, you could put in some galvanized tap in anchors. She looks good though. thumb

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Almost finished. Once you put 5200 there and it cures, the bolts probably won't matter. You'll be happy with it and saved a ton of money doing it yourself and you should never have to touch the transom again. Good job

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10 gallons Arjay - $399.98 free shipping no tax ($199.99 for 5 gallon kit x's 2) plus 3 cans of Loctite Spray Foam, Big Tube of 5200, Drill bit extender, blade for my die grinder, cheap harbor freight pneumatic body saw and blades, mixing paddle for drill, and 8' of 1" aluminum sq tubing- I'm at just under $500 for this transom job. oh wait -I did order 3 aluminum drain tubes and the flaring tool for $43 so about $540 total. nuts
I already owned the sawsall, die grinder, electric chainsaw and had a roll of foil tape in my garage.

The body saw did Good on the aluminum but couldn't handle the wood behind it so I used the sawsall and my die grinder with a 4" metal saw blade to cut the transom caps off.

I wasn't sure if 9 gallons would be enough so I went online to ProMarine Supply to see what 2 more gallons would cost and clicked the link for Arjay 6011 and it said item not found. So I emailed them - they replied it has been discontinued. This was 2 days after receiving my 10 gallon order. W.T.F.? My can said ProMarine Ceramic Transom Putty on the labels but on their website said Arjay 6011 - so they Probally had a deal with Arjay to sell it under their label that ended.? Or they copied Arjay 6011 n Arjay shut them down .?

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It was labeled like these cans on EBay - except it was white plastic 1 gallon buckets......

https://m.ebay.com/itm/Arjay-6011-Ceramic-Pourable-Compound-Transom-Putty-Gallon/282483034270?epid=1058360938&hash=item41c54d089e:g:bkYAAOSwcB5ZHQQg

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I contacted Arjay about mine and they gave me their closest distributor which was in Houston. It came in 5 gallon buckets that were marked Arjay. There are a few companies that make similar products. My first transom I used a product that you mixed equal parts and it expanded like foam and then hardened. It worked just as good except the expansion bulged the transom a little more than I wanted. I can't remember what I had to pay for it, but the shipping was outrageous so you did good for no shipping and no tax.

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UpDate: Motor hasn't fell off yet......... woot Fish Finder reads better - can even see side scan now.........

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Originally Posted By: BigPoppa007
UpDate: Motor hasn't fell off yet......... woot Fish Finder reads better - can even see side scan now.........


You did an awesome job on it! banana


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