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Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: Resh]
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09/20/17 06:59 PM
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David Burton
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I work at a bank, so at this bank $100 gets you 100.05, at that bank 100 at another bank 99.75, and apparently in fishing that's accepted as 'normal' variance that can get you a ticket, fined, win or lose big $ on? Not even close, you are taking a highly regulated industry that is backed by a governmental entity and comparing it to consumer products... Variances are to be expected when there is no department of weights and measures to ensure the bend of the board is 90 degrees at exactly position zero in a scale of 1/1000 of an inch... Just not going to happen. That's why you can get "warnings" and "OK" fish when a game warden reviews it. What can the angler do? Do what Bob himself recommended last year (I wasn't there this year to hear if he repeated), bring your board and mark with tape or otherwise.
David Burton 2015 Skeeter FX 21 +Ultrex +Helix 12 (x3) +Mega360 +MegaLive
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Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: Sinkey]
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09/20/17 07:14 PM
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Resh
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I can say myself, it happens. Ive fished a lot of tourneys on that lake and had it happen to me in the Legends tournament this year. Had about a 2.6 under that was 15 3/4 on my pro rule. Took it in and it was 16 1/4 on their check it stick. So Don DQ'd me for the day and Red grabbed me. He says "Sinkey, you know better." Told him the story and he told me to get my board. And sure enough, under on mine, but not even close on theirs. So he only gave me a warning, but couldn't fish again til the next day. Bottom line is, its the TD's decision. But I know better than to use a different board than the tourney. Lessons always learned. I get the difference in industry, I just don't know how boards get out the door that are just different lengths with the same numbers on them. Not the fish shrinking or anything, just 2 boards, that both say 16, and they aren't both 16. Are manufacturing tolerances that lax? Grateful for the warning instead of auto ticketing but man, you still lose or win money based on those decisions. We put people on the moon but can't make 2 rulers 16" long it seems. Take this from someone who has never tournament fished, reading 9 pages of a thread, and thinking good grief it shouldn't be that hard.
There are no fish in sonic pond EDIT: Except 1 20lb catfish
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Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: medic911]
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09/20/17 07:44 PM
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Deputy T
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Sealy pays the OT to have game wardens on site for this event. They are also told to write everyone that comes their way no warnings. You sir, are dead wrong.
In God we trust, All others I run through TCIC/NCIC
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Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: FishVibesTv]
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09/20/17 08:07 PM
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fouzman
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Methuselah
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Sealy pays the OT to have game wardens on site for this event. They are also told to write everyone that comes their way no warnings. Thanks, Deputy. I'm not going to call medic a liar, but if what he stated were true, I'd be even more shocked that a GW would divulge that information to anyone, especially a stranger at a bass tournament. I know a bunch of GWs and they're some of the more tight-lipped LEOs I know.
"Things turn out best for those who make the best of the way things turn out" - Zachary Troy Schrah - a young man with vision far beyond his years.
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Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: FishVibesTv]
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09/20/17 08:27 PM
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Ripinlip
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A game warden is not going to offer any other information than a number for you to contact! When I received my citation he wouldn't even tell me how much the fine would be!!
Cross Timbers Bass Club
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Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: FishVibesTv]
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09/20/17 09:00 PM
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medic911
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Yeah, I just jumped on here and made some stuff up. I just stated what was told to me. This Warden and myself have had a discussion about that day since. He remembers it well. I will not give his name cause the long and short is it doesn't matter one way or the other. It's nice to know some folks know everything tho.
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Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: medic911]
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09/20/17 09:42 PM
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fouzman
Methuselah
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Methuselah
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It's nice to know some folks know everything tho. Childish much? Ok, I'll accept your story at face value. Not typical for any of the GWs I know, though.
"Things turn out best for those who make the best of the way things turn out" - Zachary Troy Schrah - a young man with vision far beyond his years.
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Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: medic911]
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09/20/17 10:00 PM
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the skipper
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Yeah, I just jumped on here and made some stuff up. I just stated what was told to me. This Warden and myself have had a discussion about that day since. He remembers it well. I will not give his name cause the long and short is it doesn't matter one way or the other. It's nice to know some folks know everything tho. It's the internet, everybody knows everything. Bonjour
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Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: FishVibesTv]
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09/20/17 10:57 PM
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Bass-N-Buck Master
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maybe the Game Warden should have the final Official Say after all he is the one who will enforce the law and be as fair to everyone than anyone else, he probably is the most qualified to determine whether a fish is legal or not.. this way there would be no complaints.
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Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: Fishspanker]
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09/20/17 11:18 PM
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eyeball
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Game warden needs to be doing something better with his time than sitting there waiting to write a ticket on a fish that's going to be released anyway and is a smidge over or under the line. Tournament can measure the fish. Id hate to bet my life on that. Also, anyone can measure a fish, though evidently not accurately.
Give a man a fish, feed him for a day.
Teach a man to fish, he will sit in a boat all day and drink beer.
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Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: FishVibesTv]
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09/21/17 03:10 AM
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NTX Angler
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Im going to share my Mcdonalds weigh in story. I had a bass that was just under 16 on one side and just over if you laid him on the other side. There was a debate between my fishing buddies whether or not I should risk it at the weigh in. One of my friends said i would weigh it in and take my chances. I said I dont have the money to pay the fine ( I did) but didnt want to pay it. SO we made a deal if I get sent to GW he agreed to pay the fine. If I win any money I would split it with him. The weigh master laid it down and immediately looked up at me like this fish is close. He then repositioned the fish and measured it again and handed it back, said go up on stage. I gave my friend $225 that day.
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Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: NTX Angler]
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09/21/17 03:48 AM
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Douglas J
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Im going to share my Mcdonalds weigh in story. I had a bass that was just under 16 on one side and just over if you laid him on the other side. There was a debate between my fishing buddies whether or not I should risk it at the weigh in. One of my friends said i would weigh it in and take my chances. I said I dont have the money to pay the fine ( I did) but didnt want to pay it. SO we made a deal if I get sent to GW he agreed to pay the fine. If I win any money I would split it with him. The weigh master laid it down and immediately looked up at me like this fish is close. He then repositioned the fish and measured it again and handed it back, said go up on stage. I gave my friend $225 that day. It was good on their board on both sides??
#MFGA
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Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: NTX Angler]
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09/21/17 04:23 AM
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Posts: 4,340
Bobby Milam
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Im going to share my Mcdonalds weigh in story. I had a bass that was just under 16 on one side and just over if you laid him on the other side. There was a debate between my fishing buddies whether or not I should risk it at the weigh in. One of my friends said i would weigh it in and take my chances. I said I dont have the money to pay the fine ( I did) but didnt want to pay it. SO we made a deal if I get sent to GW he agreed to pay the fine. If I win any money I would split it with him. The weigh master laid it down and immediately looked up at me like this fish is close. He then repositioned the fish and measured it again and handed it back, said go up on stage. I gave my friend $225 that day. Why would you want to post on here that you have no integrity and knowingly broke the law to win $250?
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