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Mirage drive problem #12412227
09/03/17 01:44 PM
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I have a 2014 Hobie PA 12 and love it.

I'll embed a youtube video to clarify my issue.

I'm probably using the incorrect terminology, but this weekend, the mirage drive started to have a significant issue.
When I peddle, the front fin moves just fine, but, the rear mast + fin does not.

I'm in the process of disassembling the drive.

Other than having to bend the front drive mast a couple of times, I've had no issues with the Mirage drive.

There is a problem with the rear fin/mast assembly somewhere.
Here's the video from youtube. I should have made a second video, but, if I hold the teeth of the chain drive on the rear fin drive, I can move the fin mast freely. If I hold the teeth on the front chain drive, I can not move the fin.

My guess--there is a disconnect somewhere between the rear fin mast assembly and the drive axle?

In the video, the rear fin mast is filmed first, and the front fin mast is filmed second. I know the video only shows a subtle difference, but in the water, the rear fin does not move.



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Re: Mirage drive problem [Re: collincountytx] #12412307
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Well, think I've found the problem (two problems)

The set screw housing is cracked and the rear sprocket is sheared in half.

No bueno


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Re: Mirage drive problem [Re: collincountytx] #12412310
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Re: Mirage drive problem [Re: collincountytx] #12412313
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Re: Mirage drive problem [Re: collincountytx] #12412326
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I have the feeling the damage is too severe for JB Weld, and the rabbit hole of replacing parts can be deep.

This is a sign to get the 180 turbo drive.


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Re: Mirage drive problem [Re: collincountytx] #12412345
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Thanks for sharing this. Good info.

Re: Mirage drive problem [Re: collincountytx] #12412453
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Thanks for posting the details that will help others to troubleshoot in the future. Do you have any idea how this happened?

Re: Mirage drive problem [Re: collincountytx] #12412489
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7 months ago I was in a dense stump field

I thought I was out of the stump field and started peddling carefully at first

After a minute of peddling, I gained confidence and started peddling faster and faster thinking I was well clear

Now at full speed ahead and blam; went from about 5mph to zero hitting a stump teeth chattingly hard square on with the drive

Since that time there's been a subtle "click" sound when peddling

Yesterday, the clicking sound stopped just after I heard a "clunk" and only the front fin would work--would still propel forward (much slower) but with a lot more side to side rocking



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Re: Mirage drive problem [Re: collincountytx] #12412492
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Of course, the big Hobie dealer in Dallas is closed today and tomorrow; so I ordered the 180 turbo drive from Austin

I could have just replaced the sprocket and repaired the set screw housing; but, I have the feeling the stump collision set some other issues brewing--might as well suck it up and get the 180 turbo now



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Re: Mirage drive problem [Re: collincountytx] #12412502
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The Failure Analysis Committee has reached a conclusion: The load exceeded the strength of the materials. Recommendation: Buy a new one and avoid stumps in the future! Good luck.

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Re: Mirage drive problem [Re: collincountytx] #12412507
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Re: Mirage drive problem [Re: collincountytx] #12412589
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I went to Purtis Creek about 3 weeks ago, fished in the standing timber out there, just floating . . . and I'd hit stumps, just out of sight under water, broadside because of a wind that picked up and pushed me into them. Quite unnerving. I wasn't standing but I assume that if I had been, it would have knocked me off balance and out of the kayak.

Always an issue . . . I suppose this will be the big selling feature for the new Jackson with its drive able to lift up and over something like that.

I bet you'll like that 180!

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Thanks

Think I'm going to remove the drive from now on in stump fields and bring a full size paddle for those trips

Guess I'll rig up a drive leash also. Would hate to see the 180 sink to the bottom of a lake after removing it for safety


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Re: Mirage drive problem [Re: collincountytx] #12413463
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FYI: If anyone else needs a Mirage Drive, a guy in Port Aransas is advertising a 2016 drive for $500 on Craigslist in Brownsville(?), Boat Parts. He upgraded to the 180.

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