texasfishingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
Army Flyer, Festus84, Buckyb, Ralphie555, FunNSunTackle
109187 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
TexDawg 90,016
hopalong 78,905
Pilothawk 77,402
John175® 69,718
JDavis7873® 67,392
Derek 🐝 61,603
Tritonman 58,366
LoneStarSon® 54,784
Mark Perry 54,469
facebook
Forum Statistics
Forums60
Topics775,607
Posts12,978,867
Members109,187
Most Online36,273
Jan 23rd, 2013
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? #12395817
08/22/17 04:56 AM
08/22/17 04:56 AM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 557
Sulphur Springs, TX, USA
B
befuddled Offline OP
Pro Angler
befuddled  Offline OP
Pro Angler
B

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 557
Sulphur Springs, TX, USA
Strike King (and maybe others?) makes several baits made with ElazTech. Several years ago, someone made soft plastic baits with a similar material that was somewhat difficult to use since Trigging the bait didn't work well - the hook wouldn't easily penetrate the extremely soft and pliable material. Are these Strike King baits, like the Dream Shot, Ocho or Z Too, made with the same or similar material? My question is, what is the best method to rig these baits when fishing around grass or wood? I remember that eventually the only way I could really fish baits made with this material was Texposing the hook which caused many hangups, but I know times have changed....

Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: befuddled] #12395901
08/22/17 12:01 PM
08/22/17 12:01 PM
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 17,008
Dallas, TX
C
collincountytx Online content
TFF Guru
collincountytx  Online Content
TFF Guru
C

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 17,008
Dallas, TX
The strike king baits that are elaztec have 3X on the packaging

Heating the hook some with a lighter before you rig the plastic works

Superglue also helps

There are multiple DIY bait keeper methods you could try


[Linked Image]
The Longhorns are back
Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: befuddled] #12395924
08/22/17 12:26 PM
08/22/17 12:26 PM
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,267
Trophy Club, TX
Ken A. Online content
TFF Guru
Ken A.  Online Content
TFF Guru

Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,267
Trophy Club, TX
Try the Mustad KVD Grip Pin hooks.

Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: befuddled] #12396054
08/22/17 01:56 PM
08/22/17 01:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 976
Bossier City, LA
B
bassmanrudy Offline
Pro Angler
bassmanrudy  Offline
Pro Angler
B

Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 976
Bossier City, LA
trying to thread a zman bait or one of the other elaztech baits on a shaky head screw lock is QUITE frustrating!!! I like how the bait stretches but dang!


"I'd Rather Be Fishing" smile
Rudy
Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: bassmanrudy] #12396060
08/22/17 01:59 PM
08/22/17 01:59 PM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,477
Eagle Mountain Lake
B
Brent S Online content
TFF Team Angler
Brent S  Online Content
TFF Team Angler
B

Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,477
Eagle Mountain Lake
Originally Posted By: bassmanrudy
trying to thread a zman bait or one of the other elaztech baits on a shaky head screw lock is QUITE frustrating!!! I like how the bait stretches but dang!


Screw locks are nearly impossible with the 3x finesse bait. You need a shaky head or hook with a barb keeper of some sort.


Brent Shimanek
Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: befuddled] #12396068
08/22/17 02:03 PM
08/22/17 02:03 PM
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 281
San Antonio, Texas
Wes H Offline
Angler
Wes H  Offline
Angler

Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 281
San Antonio, Texas
I believe he is talking about how to texpose the hook point itself. If so, that is the reason I stopped using them also, I felt like it wasn't going to give me a good hook set through the plastic. I now only use them on ned rigs and drop shots with the hook point exposed.


fish
Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: befuddled] #12396092
08/22/17 02:13 PM
08/22/17 02:13 PM
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 554
On the Wheel
L
LinkLowrance Offline
Pro Angler
LinkLowrance  Offline
Pro Angler
L

Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 554
On the Wheel
Z-Man makes some good baits out of this material. I hook it the same, you just have to mess with it until it goes.

Getting the hook wet first normally helps.

Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: befuddled] #12396126
08/22/17 02:50 PM
08/22/17 02:50 PM
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,380
Rockwall, Tx
M
Matt Jackson Online content
Extreme Angler
Matt Jackson  Online Content
Extreme Angler
M

Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,380
Rockwall, Tx
I can't tell you how many times I've stuck my finger trying to rig the Z Man baits.

Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: befuddled] #12396277
08/22/17 04:34 PM
08/22/17 04:34 PM
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 467
Mcgregor, Texas
Big Kahuna Fishing Offline
Angler
Big Kahuna Fishing  Offline
Angler

Joined: May 2017
Posts: 467
Mcgregor, Texas
I thought one of the advantages of those types of plastic is they are very buoyant??

Is there other plastics just as buoyant??


Living the American Dream in central Texas !
Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: befuddled] #12396302
08/22/17 04:45 PM
08/22/17 04:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,424
North Richland Hills, TX
Fishinfellow Online content
TFF Team Angler
Fishinfellow  Online Content
TFF Team Angler

Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,424
North Richland Hills, TX
I don't know if it's all of their plastics or not, but don't try to dip'n die them, they will dissolve!


Thats my money fish

Kris Winhold
Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: befuddled] #12396397
08/22/17 05:46 PM
08/22/17 05:46 PM
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,516
Fort Worth, Texas
M
Marooned Offline
Extreme Angler
Marooned  Offline
Extreme Angler
M

Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,516
Fort Worth, Texas
The only way I rig an ElaZtec or Z-Man bait is on a shaky head with a weed guard or jig with a weed guard. This lets you thread the hook into the bait and pull it out to expose the hook, which is then protected by the weed guard. Lost too many fish imbedding it in the plastic.


In memory of my childhood friend Dan Sterling, who taught me at an early age how to catch bream with a hand-line, and who unknowingly hooked me on fishing for life.
Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: befuddled] #12396490
08/22/17 07:02 PM
08/22/17 07:02 PM
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,961
Texas
B
Brad R Offline
Extreme Angler
Brad R  Offline
Extreme Angler
B

Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,961
Texas
The original poster means, I think, the great difficulty of routing a hook through the plastic itself. Same thing, though, with trying to twist a centering pin into it or skin hooking it.

I hate the stuff but I occasionally use it and I pre-rig the plastics and just take my time to get them on carefully. I use a tiny drop of super glue, the only plastic I use this on. Out on the water? Not as easy so I make up a few "for the road."

One thing is for certain: once you get it on, especially if glued, fish can't easily tear a tail off or beat it up much. They last a long time.

The question about do other plastics float? Yes, Xcite plastics have no salt and tend to float. Others, too, I am sure.

Brad

Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: befuddled] #12396497
08/22/17 07:09 PM
08/22/17 07:09 PM
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,380
Rockwall, Tx
M
Matt Jackson Online content
Extreme Angler
Matt Jackson  Online Content
Extreme Angler
M

Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,380
Rockwall, Tx
From my pouring experience salt = sinking and no salt = floating all with the same plastic

Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: befuddled] #12396528
08/22/17 07:35 PM
08/22/17 07:35 PM
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 3,619
Arlington
B
Bobby Milam Offline
TFF Team Angler
Bobby Milam  Offline
TFF Team Angler
B

Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 3,619
Arlington
They say these are 10X stronger plastics than traditional

Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: befuddled] #12396691
08/22/17 09:28 PM
08/22/17 09:28 PM
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 1,068
i-Fish Online content
Extreme Angler
i-Fish  Online Content
Extreme Angler

Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 1,068
I like Z-man products and am testing a few of their baits in some very common techniques. I bought the Palmetto bugz for flipping and the Boar Hogz for c-rigs and t-rigs to give them feesh a little different look. I like the idea of the bait being buoyant in order to garner bites that I may not have gotten otherwise from more pressured fish. Time will tell! I hook them the same way I would any other soft plastic you just need to be a little more careful because of their elasticity.


If you can't find em wind em.
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread


© 1998-2018 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
UBB.threads™ 7.6.2