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hotfoot = lower unit serial killer ? #12368892
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had a conversation with a friend----
i have been boat shopping lately and have noticed a lot of reference to lower unit problems or replacements
im 50 + and have had many boats in my life --never had a lower unit problem
the theory is = people are putting the boat in gear under power (on accident of course) through lack of coordination with a hot foot
what say you ?

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Re: hotfoot = lower unit serial killer ? [Re: kevine80] #12368901
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Probably has more to do with taking a bass boat in stump fields, rocks, etc opposed to a pleasure boat being in open water


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Re: hotfoot = lower unit serial killer ? [Re: kevine80] #12368914
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I've had boats with and without hot foots. Never known it to be an issue nor have I ever heard it be a topic of concern.

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Re: hotfoot = lower unit serial killer ? [Re: kevine80] #12368985
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This is my first boat with a hot foot and it needs one. I have not had that problem.
The reason most lower units go out are not shifting related. Line in the prop shaft that goes unchecked is probably the number one reason. Anytime the seals are compromised and the LU gets water inside you need to have that remedied.

Re: hotfoot = lower unit serial killer ? [Re: kevine80] #12368986
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Interesting thought

Re: hotfoot = lower unit serial killer ? [Re: Allison1] #12368987
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Originally Posted By: Allison1
This is my first boat with a hot foot and it needs one. I have not had that problem.
The reason most lower units go out are not shifting related. Line in the prop shaft that goes unchecked is probably the number one reason. Anytime the seals are compromised and the LU gets water inside you need to have that remedied.



Agreed.

I have a theory as well about fishing line being the major culprit. Many times it is braided line that is wrapped around the prop shaft. If somebody throws it overboard, it floats just under the surface. The perfect place for a boater to pick it up unknowingly.

I have owned a bunch of boats with hotfoots and none of them had LU issues.

Re: hotfoot = lower unit serial killer ? [Re: kevine80] #12369018
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Lack of maintenance is reason for lower unit problems, that and not knowing where you are running.




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Re: hotfoot = lower unit serial killer ? [Re: kevine80] #12369057
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Or simply newer outboards especially 200hp and over have a ton more torque and that helps in many failures. I seriously doubt a hot foot hurts at all. I personally don't see more lower unit failures than I did 15 years ago.

Re: hotfoot = lower unit serial killer ? [Re: kevine80] #12369094
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Most of my lower units have been trashed from my hotfoot . From flying around Lake Amistad and the hard bottom it has. If you find this your problem just call Two guys marine

Re: hotfoot = lower unit serial killer ? [Re: kevine80] #12369127
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Originally Posted By: kevine80
had a conversation with a friend----
i have been boat shopping lately and have noticed a lot of reference to lower unit problems or replacements
im 50 + and have had many boats in my life --never had a lower unit problem
the theory is = people are putting the boat in gear under power (on accident of course) through lack of coordination with a hot foot
what say you ?


Anyone that can drive a vehicle can figure out that you're not supposed to put a load on an engine before it is engaged in a gear. I think there are other factors.


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Re: hotfoot = lower unit serial killer ? [Re: kevine80] #12369212
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In all my years of fishing I've only witnessed one lower unit destroyed by being put in gear while throttle was applied on the hot foot. Lots more lower units are shredded by hitting something, line around prop shaft, and poor maintenance IMO.





Re: hotfoot = lower unit serial killer ? [Re: kevine80] #12369223
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I don't know about other models, but the Yamaha ProV has a rpm lockout that keeps you from shifting in gear over about 1000 RPMs with a hotfoot. Well, you can force it, but you know you're doing something wrong if you do.

Re: hotfoot = lower unit serial killer ? [Re: kevine80] #12369246
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I'd say the that advent of the jackplate, faster boats with bigger motors, and these high pitch props. We run them so high, and jumping waves. it's real hard on the gearboxes when they re-enter the water when jumping a wave. I've started burying my jackplate when running rough water. Ever notice that those off shore race boats have a driver and a throttle man?


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Re: hotfoot = lower unit serial killer ? [Re: kevine80] #12369387
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Maintenance, maintenance, maintenance.

I change my LU fluid twice a year. After changing, I take it on a short run to warm up the fluid, put it back on the trailer, and crack the top bleed screw, allowing any pressure off and drain any excess gear oil...just a couple of seconds...then tighten the bleed screw.

Especially important on Mercury Torquemaster and Sportmaster LU's.

Re: hotfoot = lower unit serial killer ? [Re: Ken A.] #12369472
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Originally Posted By: Ken A.
Originally Posted By: Allison1
This is my first boat with a hot foot and it needs one. I have not had that problem.
The reason most lower units go out are not shifting related. Line in the prop shaft that goes unchecked is probably the number one reason. Anytime the seals are compromised and the LU gets water inside you need to have that remedied.



Agreed.

I have a theory as well about fishing line being the major culprit. Many times it is braided line that is wrapped around the prop shaft. If somebody throws it overboard, it floats just under the surface. The perfect place for a boater to pick it up unknowingly.

I have owned a bunch of boats with hotfoots and none of them had LU issues.

Spot on about the braided line wrapping around the prop shaft... Lost my L/U to that, Chuck at Service Marine advised me to check that shaft regularly...






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