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Ranger vs Phoenix? #12266562 05/28/17 03:16 PM
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I have ridden in Rangers all of my life. I have never been in a Phoenix and I may not ever but I have heard good things about them. Those of you that have been in both what do you like better? I know the pros and cons of a Ranger but what about the Phoenix?

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Re: Ranger vs Phoenix? [Re: aggieman775] #12266566 05/28/17 03:18 PM
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Re: Ranger vs Phoenix? [Re: aggieman775] #12266630 05/28/17 04:22 PM
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Never owned a Phoenix but have owned a Ranger. My take is they are both good boats and you buy the one you like and can afford. Both are well made and serve a purpose. I do thing Ranger's have better resale value though.


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Re: Ranger vs Phoenix? [Re: aggieman775] #12266640 05/28/17 04:31 PM
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Re: Ranger vs Phoenix? [Re: GIG'EM AGGIES] #12266644 05/28/17 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted By: GIG'EM AGGIES
Never owned a Phoenix but have owned a Ranger. My take is they are both good boats and you buy the one you like and can afford. Both are well made and serve a purpose. I do thing Ranger's have better resale value though.


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Re: Ranger vs Phoenix? [Re: aggieman775] #12266704 05/28/17 05:43 PM
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I have owned a 2012 Z522 and a 921 Phoenix. This is my comments, their is no boat that fishes as good as a Ranger once the trolling motor is down. The 22'4" Z522 spans the waves in high wind great and rode good but could beat you up if you hit a wave wrong. The 921 won't span as good as a Z522 but the re entry is really soft and will not beat you up so its easy on the back. The 921 doesn't fish as good as a Ranger but if the Ranger is a 10 on a 1-10 scale then the 921 is a 9-9.5. The lay out is close on the PHX and Ranger, the Pro XP is my favorite. The resale right now is as good on Phoenix as any brand out their because they are selling as quick as they can get them out. I think I heard the 921 is about 18-20 weeks now. They are not taking any new dealers right now because they cannot keep up. They are both good boats but their are difference in the two brands on most points. The Phoenix is a little cheaper for now but they are getting more expensive each year.

The Z522 was 22'4" long and weight 1940 pounds, the Phoenix 921 is 21'6" and weights 1950 pounds but the Z 522 ran about 67 fully loaded the 921 would run 75.

I like the 921 better it will be a better buy for now but that will change and the Phoenix may be the only brand that can sale as quick as a Ranger and resale will be as good or better because you can buy a new boat in the Phoenix and it will not lose as much money as others brands because of demand right now just not many used boats on the market in the Phoenix brand.

Re: Ranger vs Phoenix? [Re: aggieman775] #12266706 05/28/17 05:46 PM
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For resale,nothing beats a Ranger


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Re: Ranger vs Phoenix? [Re: aggieman775] #12266711 05/28/17 05:53 PM
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the 921 2012 model sold new for around 54-56 and sells today for low 40's the 721 sold new back then for around 45 it sells for around 40 today. I do not know of many brands out their that can say this. the brand is so new it out sold its expectations and the resale has been great and they sale as fast as Ranger because of wait time on new boats. We will see in coming years if this continues but its been great for the last few years. I agree Ranger for twenty years did out sale other brands but Phoenix has held their own against other boat brands and even Ranger. The Phoenix brand as amazed me in the fact you can have a boat that sold new a couple years back for 59-63 still brining 48-52 thats only 3-4 thousand lost per year not many brnads can do that. The 2014-15 are still in the low 50's to upper 40's even now

Re: Ranger vs Phoenix? [Re: aggieman775] #12266730 05/28/17 06:15 PM
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You owe it to yourself to take a ride in a Phoenix. PM me if you want jump in my boat one day and take it for a spin, I run a 921.


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Originally Posted By: 921 Phoenix
the 921 2012 model sold new for around 54-56 and sells today for low 40's the 721 sold new back then for around 45 it sells for around 40 today. I do not know of many brands out their that can say this. the brand is so new it out sold its expectations and the resale has been great and they sale as fast as Ranger because of wait time on new boats. We will see in coming years if this continues but its been great for the last few years. I agree Ranger for twenty years did out sale other brands but Phoenix has held their own against other boat brands and even Ranger. The Phoenix brand as amazed me in the fact you can have a boat that sold new a couple years back for 59-63 still brining 48-52 thats only 3-4 thousand lost per year not many brnads can do that. The 2014-15 are still in the low 50's to upper 40's even now


I don't have a dog in this fight (Yet) but i couldn't agree more, i have been looking at "New to me Boats" for the last 5 months, and Phoenix has a very good resale value, currently trying to work a deal on a 2012 721 for just a touch under 40k, that's a lot to be said for a 5 year old boat, NADA has this boat at average retail of 42k.


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the 921 2012 model sold new for around 54-56 and sells today for low 40's the 721 sold new back then for around 45 it sells for around 40 today. I do not know of many brands out their that can say this. the brand is so new it out sold its expectations and the resale has been great and they sale as fast as Ranger because of wait time on new boats. We will see in coming years if this continues but its been great for the last few years. I agree Ranger for twenty years did out sale other brands but Phoenix has held their own against other boat brands and even Ranger. The Phoenix brand as amazed me in the fact you can have a boat that sold new a couple years back for 59-63 still brining 48-52 thats only 3-4 thousand lost per year not many brnads can do that. The 2014-15 are still in the low 50's to upper 40's even now


I don't have a dog in this fight (Yet) but i couldn't agree more, i have been looking at "New to me Boats" for the last 5 months, and Phoenix has a very good resale value, currently trying to work a deal on a 2012 721 for just a touch under 40k, that's a lot to be said for a 5 year old boat, NADA has this boat at average retail of 42k.


yep 721 does better then any boat out there. The 2012- 721 would have sold new in the mid to upper 40's, for the boat to still NADA for 42 is amazing.

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Re: Ranger vs Phoenix? [Re: aggieman775] #12266925 05/28/17 09:30 PM
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Reason Phoenix boats is holding value is because prize of boats have been going up.Not knocking Phoenix boats,been in boat business for years friends,but to be honest nothing beats the used price of Rangers,as long as boat prices keep rising used prices will stay up.


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Reason Phoenix boats is holding value is because prize of boats have been going up.Not knocking Phoenix boats,been in boat business for years friends,but to be honest nothing beats the used price of Rangers,as long as boat prices keep rising used prices will stay up.


have other boat brands prices not gone up last few years like Phoenix. The base price for a 921 was 54,000 in 2012 its around 63,000 today thats about 9,000. The Z520 was in the 62,000 back then if they are in the 71,000 now its about the same. I do not believe their is a Ranger that sold for 45-47 in 2012 is still selling in the low 40's today like the 721 is.

Ranger is a great boat but resale isn't as far ahead of other brands as it once was.

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Where can you find a fully loaded out 921 for 63k?

You can get a fully loaded z521c for 71,195

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