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Re: Is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere? [Re: Skeeterbbq] #11908223 10/30/16 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted By: oldscout1
How much bass fishing pressure on Biwa??


http://www.bassfan.com/docktalk_article/14967/bass-cat-s-pierce-experiences-biwa-pressure

One post arguing that it's pressure that makes them impossible to catch and another arguing that it takes immense pressure to catch one.
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Re: Is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere? [Re: Skeeterbbq] #11908234 10/30/16 06:40 PM
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Well GIGEM I for one do not agree with you but I gotta admit it's all opinions and yours is as good as anybody's. That's one reason this is a cool thread. I have a bit of big bass fishing experience to base my opinions on as well, so I'm going with those experiences although I always try to keep an open mind.

Re: Is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere? [Re: Dr JL] #11908248 10/30/16 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted By: Dr JL
Well GIGEM I for one do not agree with you but I gotta admit it's all opinions and yours is as good as anybody's. That's one reason this is a cool thread. I have a bit of big bass fishing experience to base my opinions on as well, so I'm going with those experiences although I always try to keep an open mind.

My opinion is more exciting JL don't you think ? Every angler I know thinks the next cast will produce the biggest fish he's ever caught. I was thinking that when I caught that 14lb. and tomorrow when I make my first cast at Fork I'll be thinking the same thing. thumb


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Re: Is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere? [Re: Skeeterbbq] #11908251 10/30/16 06:56 PM
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Re: Is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere? [Re: GIG'EM AGGIES] #11908268 10/30/16 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: GIG'EM AGGIES
Originally Posted By: Dr JL
Well GIGEM I for one do not agree with you but I gotta admit it's all opinions and yours is as good as anybody's. That's one reason this is a cool thread. I have a bit of big bass fishing experience to base my opinions on as well, so I'm going with those experiences although I always try to keep an open mind.

My opinion is more exciting JL don't you think ? Every angler I know thinks the next cast will produce the biggest fish he's ever caught. I was thinking that when I caught that 14lb. and tomorrow when I make my first cast at Fork I'll be thinking the same thing. thumb


Well yes and I DO still say Never say never!
And I have always put Pinkston on my radar but have never fished there- lot of good qualities from what I read.

Re: Is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere? [Re: SkeeterRonnie] #11908288 10/30/16 07:27 PM
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I mentioned before , best post of the year .
I will add some additional thoughts . How many people that have posted this thread and or just read this thread know of ANY guys that ONLY spend time hunting giant bass ? Not guys that have caught a few big bass , guys that spend all day/week /month/ year targeting giant bass ? Probably zero .
Those SoCal guys only fish for giant bass , the don't spend time tossing senko's in weeds or throwing a KVD 1.5 for 2 lbers . Dottie was caught by a group of different guys from boats that cost less than $5K. As a group , they actually talked every day , " did you see her? where is she ? etc....
Secondly , Texas lakes are more affected by drought than Cali lakes and when Texas lakes suffer drought , the lake suffers severe oxygen loss . Severe oxygen creates large fish kills . Cali lakes are typically deeper and can sustain bass during most droughts . That Lake Biwa bass was practically trained , he would hand feed those big bass so they knew him and were much easier to catch .
Aside from really large catfish , Cali bass are the top of the food chain .
If people found a dead 20lber floating in Fork , I am certain the really big lakes like Toledo , Fork etc... have these giant bass , it's just people are having to much fun catching a nice bag of 2-5 lbers instead of soaking a giant crawdad in 40 feet in the perfect place at night on a full moon , night after night after night etc...

Re: Is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere? [Re: Skeeterbbq] #11908304 10/30/16 07:37 PM
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Re: Is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere? [Re: 1oldbassguy] #11908305 10/30/16 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: 1oldbassguy
I mentioned before , best post of the year .
I will add some additional thoughts . How many people that have posted this thread and or just read this thread know of ANY guys that ONLY spend time hunting giant bass ? Not guys that have caught a few big bass , guys that spend all day/week /month/ year targeting giant bass ? Probably zero .
Those SoCal guys only fish for giant bass , the don't spend time tossing senko's in weeds or throwing a KVD 1.5 for 2 lbers . Dottie was caught by a group of different guys from boats that cost less than $5K. As a group , they actually talked every day , " did you see her? where is she ? etc....
Secondly , Texas lakes are more affected by drought than Cali lakes and when Texas lakes suffer drought , the lake suffers severe oxygen loss . Severe oxygen creates large fish kills . Cali lakes are typically deeper and can sustain bass during most droughts . That Lake Biwa bass was practically trained , he would hand feed those big bass so they knew him and were much easier to catch .
Aside from really large catfish , Cali bass are the top of the food chain .
If people found a dead 20lber floating in Fork , I am certain the really big lakes like Toledo , Fork etc... have these giant bass , it's just people are having to much fun catching a nice bag of 2-5 lbers instead of soaking a giant crawdad in 40 feet in the perfect place at night on a full moon , night after night after night etc...


My point exactly oldbassguy and why I posted that if one gets caught it will probably be an accident by someone fishing for another species. Like the current state record it will be celebrated and acknowledged but considered an accident. Still we know they're out there. Could have been a 20 swimming right next to the 18.


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Re: Is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere? [Re: Skeeterbbq] #11908315 10/30/16 07:46 PM
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Several guys that have posted on this thread fish pretty much for giants only and I know for a fact are extremely good at catching them. I would put them up against Cali anglers any day all day.
Its the lakes the people are fishing not the skill of the people fishing the lakes that is determining the ultimate size.

Those other points have some merit I think.

Re: Is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere? [Re: Skeeterbbq] #11908548 10/30/16 11:11 PM
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PK before major algae kill had some big fish. The lake record of 16.02 was caught in October and Dave Campbell said she would have gone 18+ in the spring and the lake was deep and cooler and fish could live longer there. 12.50 caught in August this summer. Without any more kills the lake will turn out some big fish. fish

Re: Is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere? [Re: oldscout1] #11909414 10/31/16 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted By: oldscout1
How much bass fishing pressure on Biwa??


The first time I fished Biwa, it was late November, about 40 degrees and pouring rain. It looked like Fork during a Big Bass Splash.

There isn't anything in the world that compares to it from a pressure standpoint and it kicks out several fish in the 15-17lb class every year.

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Originally Posted By: oldscout1
Lake Fork has more pressure on it than the entire state of California..


lol...

Re: Is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere? [Re: GIG'EM AGGIES] #11909562 10/31/16 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted By: GIG'EM AGGIES
Originally Posted By: 1oldbassguy
I mentioned before , best post of the year .
I will add some additional thoughts . How many people that have posted this thread and or just read this thread know of ANY guys that ONLY spend time hunting giant bass ? Not guys that have caught a few big bass , guys that spend all day/week /month/ year targeting giant bass ? Probably zero .
Those SoCal guys only fish for giant bass , the don't spend time tossing senko's in weeds or throwing a KVD 1.5 for 2 lbers . Dottie was caught by a group of different guys from boats that cost less than $5K. As a group , they actually talked every day , " did you see her? where is she ? etc....
Secondly , Texas lakes are more affected by drought than Cali lakes and when Texas lakes suffer drought , the lake suffers severe oxygen loss . Severe oxygen creates large fish kills . Cali lakes are typically deeper and can sustain bass during most droughts . That Lake Biwa bass was practically trained , he would hand feed those big bass so they knew him and were much easier to catch .
Aside from really large catfish , Cali bass are the top of the food chain .
If people found a dead 20lber floating in Fork , I am certain the really big lakes like Toledo , Fork etc... have these giant bass , it's just people are having to much fun catching a nice bag of 2-5 lbers instead of soaking a giant crawdad in 40 feet in the perfect place at night on a full moon , night after night after night etc...


My point exactly oldbassguy and why I posted that if one gets caught it will probably be an accident by someone fishing for another species. Like the current state record it will be celebrated and acknowledged but considered an accident. Still we know they're out there. Could have been a 20 swimming right next to the 18.


Then why hasn't one been caught? Plenty of guys doing that exact same thing all day every day.

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Lots of reasons:
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- Huge lakes Lots of Hiding Places
- Wrong Hole
- Wrong Depth
- Electronic and Motor Sounds
- Wrong Bait
- Lack of or Too Heavy of Equipment
- Big One Got Away.
- Wind and Weather Conditions
And the reasons go on...


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