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Re: Hobie vs native [Re: bradnitro175] #12947667 10/28/18 12:53 AM
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Hobie PA12 weights 128.5 #s fully rigged \ Native Titan 12 weights 138 #s fully rigged. FYI


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Re: Hobie vs native [Re: Jmachuca] #12953352 11/02/18 03:28 PM
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Go demo both and buy what you like the best. Everyone will have their own personal preference.

Re: Hobie vs native [Re: Jmachuca] #12960602 11/09/18 08:49 PM
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Definitely demo both. I demoed the Titan when it first came out, to me the seat was uncomfortable and it felt "cheap" compared to the Hobie. I ended up with a PA 14 after that demo, second place for me was the Old Town Predator PDL. I can tell you that out of 142 anglers on Fork last weekend for Tournament of Champions there were probably 5 Hobies to every 1 brand of different kayak, there has to be a reason for that.

Re: Hobie vs native [Re: Jmachuca] #12961543 11/11/18 01:26 AM
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I'll preface my comments with the most worthy advice that has already been offered - demo all yaks that you are considering.
I've had a Native Slayer Propel 13 for about 3 years. When I bought it, the only real competition for pedal drive yaks was Hobie. That is not true any longer. I chose the Slayer over the Hobie for 2 reasons. Firstly, I bass fish in open water a good bit and the reverse is indispensable. I know Hobie has some type of reverse now but I'm not sure how user-friendly it is. Secondly, the Slayer is narrow enough to paddle efficiently in the marsh and small rivers, if I opt to leave the pedal drive at home. For me, it is a good, all-around yak. I don't know how the Titan compares to the Slayer, but they appear to share the same rudder system, which SUCKS. I upgraded to the Boonedox but it is still not ideal.

If I was in the market for a new pedal drive yak, I would look hard at the Old Town Topwater PDL. Not sure how well it paddles but there are numerous favorable reviews.

If you plan on mostly bass fishing, either in open water or beating the bank, I would strongly recommend going with a drive that has instant reverse. Electronics/transducer interface is something to consider too.

Re: Hobie vs native [Re: Jmachuca] #12961938 11/11/18 03:32 PM
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Old Town PDL is 82 pounds without the drive or seat.
82# not something you would want to cartop, so that is something to keep in mind.


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Re: Hobie vs native [Re: Jmachuca] #12961985 11/11/18 04:19 PM
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I know this is a Hobie versus Native thread, but all the pedal yaks I have tried were heavy slugs when paddling, and I was very unimpressed with the rudder systems. My dream fishing kayak would be a Viking Profish 400, or a Wilderness Tarpon 140, WITH A REVERSIBLE PEDAL DRIVE, if they existed. Maybe someday. I don't expect to ever stand and fish in a kayak. I've considered buying a Pescador 14 and cobbling a pedal drive into it, to test my theory, without risking a lot of dough. Island Jim


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Re: Hobie vs native [Re: Jmachuca] #12962071 11/11/18 06:24 PM
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Has anyone tried the Native Manta Ray Propel?

https://nativewatercraft.com/product/manta-ray-propel-angler-12/


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Re: Hobie vs native [Re: Jmachuca] #12963068 11/12/18 03:25 PM
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I have a PDL and it paddles nicely. Not much different than my Jackson Big Rig. You sit higher so its not as easy but its handling characteristics under paddle are similar.

Re: Hobie vs native [Re: Jmachuca] #12975352 11/25/18 07:43 AM
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Neither. Pescador

Re: Hobie vs native [Re: Jmachuca] #12978313 11/28/18 02:40 PM
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I've fished out of both the PA 14 and Titan 13.5. I liked the Titan a little better it seemed more stable to me and had a lot of storage area. I liked the dual power poles on the Titan. The Titan's drive is to me more robust and less complicated than the PA. Both boats are awesome fishing boats. Go test both out before you buy there's plenty of shops that will give you free demos, never pay for a demo. There's even guys out there that will let you try their boats out if you ask. Come north and see Russ at Angler's Pro Tackle in North Richland Hills it's worth the drive.

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Re: Hobie vs native [Re: Jmachuca] #12979803 11/29/18 09:36 PM
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I've tried the titan and it's very nice. But I haven't been able to try the PA yet. I live in west Texas and no one has one around here. I'm going to go to fort worth in a few weeks. I'll call Russ thanks for the info.


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Re: Hobie vs native [Re: Jmachuca] #12982874 12/03/18 12:43 AM
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This might sound like a goofy analogy, but I think of a fishing kayak as a tool to get the job done. There is an element of pride of ownership that shouldn't be ignored, but in the end it is still about a tool that will get the job done.

It's one thing to make comparisons based on the boats MSRP, but recently saw a Titan 12 from a reputable dealer for a grand off it's list price. If you were looking at a PA14 in Camo that comparison is now between a $3900 boat and a $1700 boat. Money does change one's idea of what is NEEDED.

I tried to buy a 2019 Hobie PA14 in Camo in October. I fished 9 times in October and thought that if I could find one locally I would pull the trigger. I called every Hobie retailer within 200 miles and even contacted Hobie through their Facebook page and through their corp number. No boat was available. They sent the first boats off of the line to warmer climates and not to a place where the water was going to be hard in a matter of weeks. I'm doing a count down to the boat show in my area in February (13 more weeks to to). I thought that the PA 14 was it, but a $2200 difference in price for a boat that will do most of what the other one will do will buy a whole lot of accessories.

I'll probably still get a PA 14 in Feb, but these crazy end of year prices on some boats do give a guy a reason for a pause. All I'm saying is that at a certain point price does come into the equation. Check your local pricing for end of the year deals. By the way, I have never seen very aggressive deals on the Hobie line like I have seen with other boats.

Have fun shopping.


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