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#7166460 - 02/13/12 10:35 AM Re: Why no casinos in Texas?? [Re: J.D.B.]
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unless Texas puts a casino closer to the DFW area than Winstar, 90% of 'us' dfw peeps will still go to Winstar. i will guarantee that. putting that casino right across the border was genius.

oh and you better believe they are contributing to the Perry fund.
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#7166551 - 02/13/12 10:53 AM Re: Why no casinos in Texas?? [Re: Bob Davis]
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[/quote]

What jobs? Dishwasher, bartender, blackjack dealer, security cop? Anyone wealthy enough to buy commercial property and build a casino will likely bring in some experienced operators from another state. I'm not dead set against casinos although I wouldn't waste a dime at one, I don't see any real economic advantage. [/quote]

There are a LOT more jobs then what you stated. And nothing wrong with being a dishwasher or a bartender, etc etc. I married a bartender and she is now a nurse. Put herself thru school. Plus what about the maintance personal, managers, etc.. Are you just a snob or a Bigot?

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#7166589 - 02/13/12 11:03 AM Re: Why no casinos in Texas?? [Re: J.D.B.]
Mo Offline
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Working as a VIP Casino Host is my second career job choice.

I don't want to have to move out of state to do it,

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#7166644 - 02/13/12 11:13 AM Re: Why no casinos in Texas?? [Re: J.D.B.]
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Cheap, low-end jobs are what provided much of the job growth in Rick Perry's "Texas Miracle".
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#7166763 - 02/13/12 11:40 AM Re: Why no casinos in Texas?? [Re: J.D.B.]
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TFP is partially correct. Gambling is just transferring wealth for one entity to another. If you consider Oklahoma, Louisiana, and New Mexico as separate entities, then Texas receives no benefit when the wealth changes hands. With casinos inside the state border, the transfer of wealth would then become a revenue benefit for Texas.
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#7166786 - 02/13/12 11:45 AM Re: Why no casinos in Texas?? [Re: Bob Davis]
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Originally Posted By: Bob Davis
Casinos meh. Glitter and futile attempts at a brass ring. The house wins most of the time.
then don't play...problem solved smile
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#7166897 - 02/13/12 12:06 PM Re: Why no casinos in Texas?? [Re: BassFever]
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Originally Posted By: BassFever

What jobs? Dishwasher, bartender, blackjack dealer, security cop? Anyone wealthy enough to buy commercial property and build a casino will likely bring in some experienced operators from another state. I'm not dead set against casinos although I wouldn't waste a dime at one, I don't see any real economic advantage.
There are a LOT more jobs then what you stated. And nothing wrong with being a dishwasher or a bartender, etc etc. I married a bartender and she is now a nurse. Put herself thru school. Plus what about the maintance personal, managers, etc.. Are you just a snob or a Bigot?




Wow. A bigot or a snob? Far from it partner. There is nothing wrong with those jobs, my point was in reply to someone saying look at all the jobs Casinos will bring. How many bartenders and dishwashers will they employ? A casino will not solve a job problem in Texas. If you wanted to solve a job problem bring in some manufacturing.

You read something way wrong into my text.


Edited by Bob Davis (02/13/12 12:07 PM)
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#7166910 - 02/13/12 12:08 PM Re: Why no casinos in Texas?? [Re: Tritonman]
Bob Davis Offline
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Originally Posted By: Tritonman
Originally Posted By: Bob Davis
Casinos meh. Glitter and futile attempts at a brass ring. The house wins most of the time.
then don't play...problem solved smile


Good advice.
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#7167014 - 02/13/12 12:21 PM Re: Why no casinos in Texas?? [Re: J.D.B.]
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I watched the boom in Shreveport once the casinos caught on. What they did was help clean up a lot of the crime and provided LOTS of jobs, not only in the casinos, but elsewhere.

Here's what happened:
Many people got better paying jobs at the casinos, because they pay better for certain positions. Those people began to spend that money around town....new cars, homes....etc....which provided even more jobs to some folks. The big new shopping centers here, located on Highway 1 were built mainly due to the casino ripple effect.

The downside, is that ALL of your local restaurants will lose their very best workers because the casinos pay so much more, provide medical insurance,401k plans and other benefits. A local restaurant is at a distinct disadvantage in hiring quality workers due to the casino packages....who pay as much as 50% more for the same work. Some restaurants will simply close down and the ones that remain will offer substandard service in many cases...due to the scumbags they are forced to hire. Not to mention the fact that people like me would rather go eat a FREE meal at a casino than spend $70 at a local restaurant 3 X a week.
Well....we "think" it's free....anyway....

Pawn shops will begin to do well too, as the locals lose their money in the casinos.

I lost my nearly retired partner to a casino...seriously. An MBA CFP....too. One smart SOB.

He thought it would be "fun" to become a dealer for 2 years prior to his scheduled retirement, although he didnt need the money. In fact, he took a substantial pay cut...but he wanted something different. He was already wealthy.

Casinos are coming to Texas sooner or later....like it or not. You cant stop them forever. They quietly slip around and get "their people" elected over a period of years, then one day, you'll wake up and it's a done deal. There is just way too much money involved. "When"....is the question. Not "if". ...and once they move into a town, they own it. Period. The politicians will not go against them because they get used to all of that new revenue for their pet projects. Personally, I'd love Texas to get them, so maybe the traffic in Shreveport would subside a little.
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#7167039 - 02/13/12 12:24 PM Re: Why no casinos in Texas?? [Re: J.D.B.]
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Is Jack Abramoff friendly to Texas casino interests?

What?!?! wait.....
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#7167083 - 02/13/12 12:30 PM Re: Why no casinos in Texas?? [Re: OldFrog]
Bob Davis Offline
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Registered: 05/30/02
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Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA
Originally Posted By: OldFrog
I watched the boom in Shreveport once the casinos caught on. What they did was help clean up a lot of the crime and provided LOTS of jobs, not only in the casinos, but elsewhere.

Here's what happened:
Many people got better paying jobs at the casinos, because they pay better for certain positions. Those people began to spend that money around town....new cars, homes....etc....which provided even more jobs to some folks. The big new shopping centers here, located on Highway 1 were built mainly due to the casino ripple effect.

The downside, is that ALL of your local restaurants will lose their very best workers because the casinos pay so much more, provide medical insurance,401k plans and other benefits. A local restaurant is at a distinct disadvantage in hiring quality workers due to the casino packages....who pay as much as 50% more for the same work. Some restaurants will simply close down and the ones that remain will offer substandard service in many cases...due to the scumbags they are forced to hire. Not to mention the fact that people like me would rather go eat a FREE meal at a casino than spend $70 at a local restaurant 3 X a week.
Well....we "think" it's free....anyway....

Pawn shops will begin to do well too, as the locals lose their money in the casinos.

I lost my nearly retired partner to a casino...seriously. An MBA CFP....too. One smart SOB.

He thought it would be "fun" to become a dealer for 2 years prior to his scheduled retirement, although he didnt need the money. In fact, he took a substantial pay cut...but he wanted something different. He was already wealthy.

Casinos are coming to Texas sooner or later....like it or not. You cant stop them forever. They quietly slip around and get "their people" elected over a period of years, then one day, you'll wake up and it's a done deal. There is just way too much money involved. "When"....is the question. Not "if". ...and once they move into a town, they own it. Period. The politicians will not go against them because they get used to all of that new revenue for their pet projects. Personally, I'd love Texas to get them, so maybe the traffic in Shreveport would subside a little.


Well then I will stand corrected in my thinking Casinos would not create that many jobs. I have no argument when case history proves otherwise.
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#7167134 - 02/13/12 12:43 PM Re: Why no casinos in Texas?? [Re: J.D.B.]
anthonyhicks101 Offline
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Registered: 02/09/03
Posts: 3290
Loc: Princeton, TX
This seems to have turned into an argument about whether or not Casinos allowed in Texas would solve any/all problems.
My take on it is this...drive through any border Casino and 80+% of license plates are from Texas. I'd rather just keep the money in Texas.
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#7167313 - 02/13/12 01:31 PM Re: Why no casinos in Texas?? [Re: Bob Davis]
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Registered: 01/03/06
Posts: 4873
Loc: Irving
Originally Posted By: Bob Davis
Originally Posted By: BassFever

What jobs? Dishwasher, bartender, blackjack dealer, security cop? Anyone wealthy enough to buy commercial property and build a casino will likely bring in some experienced operators from another state. I'm not dead set against casinos although I wouldn't waste a dime at one, I don't see any real economic advantage.
There are a LOT more jobs then what you stated. And nothing wrong with being a dishwasher or a bartender, etc etc. I married a bartender and she is now a nurse. Put herself thru school. Plus what about the maintance personal, managers, etc.. Are you just a snob or a Bigot?




Wow. A bigot or a snob? Far from it partner. There is nothing wrong with those jobs, my point was in reply to someone saying look at all the jobs Casinos will bring. How many bartenders and dishwashers will they employ? A casino will not solve a job problem in Texas. If you wanted to solve a job problem bring in some manufacturing.

You read something way wrong into my text.


I read just what you typed and just re-read it again. I was correct in what I said and how I said it. I hope I'm wrong and it's just your emotions coming out.

I agree with Oldfrog and some of the other posters. If you don't want to gamble don't go into the casino. Problem solved.

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#7167328 - 02/13/12 01:34 PM Re: Why no casinos in Texas?? [Re: Tallgrass05]
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Registered: 06/12/09
Posts: 310
Originally Posted By: Tallgrass05
Cheap, low-end jobs are what provided much of the job growth in Rick Perry's "Texas Miracle".


Really? Most libs are saying it's oil jobs. Get with it t grass. You are falling behind on your talking points.

The fact about the high percentage of people living in poverty in Texas is because of the large Hispanic population (almost 40%). In the US the poverty rate for Hispanic's is around 26.5%.

Oh and by the way, Texas has the 4th highest per capita income level when adjusted for cost of living.

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#7167465 - 02/13/12 02:07 PM Re: Why no casinos in Texas?? [Re: BassFever]
Bob Davis Offline
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Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA
Originally Posted By: BassFever
Originally Posted By: Bob Davis
Originally Posted By: BassFever

What jobs? Dishwasher, bartender, blackjack dealer, security cop? Anyone wealthy enough to buy commercial property and build a casino will likely bring in some experienced operators from another state. I'm not dead set against casinos although I wouldn't waste a dime at one, I don't see any real economic advantage.
There are a LOT more jobs then what you stated. And nothing wrong with being a dishwasher or a bartender, etc etc. I married a bartender and she is now a nurse. Put herself thru school. Plus what about the maintance personal, managers, etc.. Are you just a snob or a Bigot?




Wow. A bigot or a snob? Far from it partner. There is nothing wrong with those jobs, my point was in reply to someone saying look at all the jobs Casinos will bring. How many bartenders and dishwashers will they employ? A casino will not solve a job problem in Texas. If you wanted to solve a job problem bring in some manufacturing.

You read something way wrong into my text.


I read just what you typed and just re-read it again. I was correct in what I said and how I said it. I hope I'm wrong and it's just your emotions coming out.

I agree with Oldfrog and some of the other posters. If you don't want to gamble don't go into the casino. Problem solved.


So you don't know me but call me a bigot and a snob anyway. Nice. I get it, you like casinos. You're one of those who like to throw the bigot word around. Thanks for the echoed advice about gambling too.
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#7167661 - 02/13/12 02:48 PM Re: Why no casinos in Texas?? [Re: J.D.B.]
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Cant we all just get along? taz
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#7167663 - 02/13/12 02:49 PM Re: Why no casinos in Texas?? [Re: Bob Davis]
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Registered: 01/29/08
Posts: 3395
Loc: Flower Mound, Texas
I suspect this thread is heading for lockdown......so let me be the first to say...... IBTL banana


Edited by BassHook'em (02/13/12 02:49 PM)
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#7167691 - 02/13/12 02:53 PM Re: Why no casinos in Texas?? [Re: J.D.B.]
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Registered: 01/03/06
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IBTL.


This is almost as bad as voting on liquor sales.

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