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#7111813 - 01/30/12 08:37 PM
Re: Is there a difference in brands of boat oil?
[Re: lost]
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Outdoorsman
Registered: 06/14/06
Posts: 52
Loc: lake fork,tx
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that is right,,,,also citgo makes merc oil[,citgo is owned by hugo chavez the dictator of venezuela , which is why i will not use it....quote=lost]I believe TCW3 is a certification not an additive. [/quote] THIS SHOULD BE post and quote to the post about tcw3 being a certification not an additive
Edited by mtnman (01/30/12 08:43 PM)
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#7118047 - 02/01/12 10:38 AM
Re: Is there a difference in brands of boat oil?
[Re: DaddyL]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 10/10/06
Posts: 1511
Loc: Sulphur Springs TX
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All Tech 2000 stuff at Walmart is made by Quaker State.
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#7118336 - 02/01/12 11:59 AM
Re: Is there a difference in brands of boat oil?
[Re: DaddyL]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 06/02/11
Posts: 843
Loc: dalllas texas
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Walmart supertech TCW3 oil is a quality conventional oil and does the job extremely well. That said I use penzoil full synthetic as I am a believer that synthetic is better. I have never had a fouled plug only changed them once since june 1996. Gonna do a compression check and leak down here soon just to see what the numbers are. I do know that I have never had any carbon issues using syn. oil and I prefer the grey color in my prop exhaust compared to the black from conventional oil. Synthetic burns cleaner, cleaner= better for me.
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#7120388 - 02/01/12 08:40 PM
Re: Is there a difference in brands of boat oil?
[Re: DaddyL]
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Angler
Registered: 08/03/06
Posts: 373
Loc: red rock, texas
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i didn't know who made the walmart brand, but i did know there are only a few refineries that make the oil and bottle it for a lot of brands. if you check you can get what ever brand you like in the cheaper version bottle. they are from the same refinery.
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#7120642 - 02/01/12 09:28 PM
Re: Is there a difference in brands of boat oil?
[Re: DaddyL]
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Angler
Registered: 04/15/08
Posts: 394
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Why would someone spend 20k on an engine and try to save $2.00 on a gallon of oil? Doesn't make sense to me. This argument reminds me of something that came up many years ago. I bought a new motorcycle and wanted to buy a new helment also. A friend of mine was with me who raced bikes. I asked him if there was a difference in the $20 helmets and the $100 helmets. He said "if you have a $20 head, get a $20 helment!" I bought the $100 one. I use the good oil too. There is a difference IMHO.
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#7125482 - 02/03/12 12:00 AM
Re: Is there a difference in brands of boat oil?
[Re: DaddyL]
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Angler
Registered: 10/14/04
Posts: 386
Loc: Onalaska,Tx
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Years ago I hauled base oil to blending facilities that canned/bottled 2 cycle oil. I watched several differently labeled containers running down a conveyor and they were all filled from the same tank.While talking to the manager of the facility I found that the only difference in the dino oil blends was the dye. That said I run WalMart/Citgo or whatever is on sale. To do any different is to become a victim of marketing. The "good oil" as the above poster implied is Quicksilver/Tech 2000/Citgo/Penzoil/etc.
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#7126953 - 02/03/12 11:00 AM
Re: Is there a difference in brands of boat oil?
[Re: DaddyL]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 05/21/02
Posts: 1164
Loc: San Antonio, Texas
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I have been buying Yamalube, I am begining to wonder now?
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#7127031 - 02/03/12 11:23 AM
Re: Is there a difference in brands of boat oil?
[Re: DaddyL]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 06/02/11
Posts: 843
Loc: dalllas texas
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Spot on there Cmack. Run what you are comfy with if paying more for Dino oil is your thing do it if paying less is your thing do it. TCW-3 standard has forced the carp 2 stroke off the market. 2 stroke and 2 cycle are the same.
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#7130338 - 02/04/12 08:19 AM
Re: Is there a difference in brands of boat oil?
[Re: DaddyL]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 09/26/07
Posts: 1638
Loc: Joshua, TX
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My 2002 Merc 250 XB Pro has used Penzoil full synthetic after break-in period and no problems....clean plugs, no heavy smoke, clean prop....
I haven't used anything else, so I can't report on the other brands...
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#7130615 - 02/04/12 10:14 AM
Re: Is there a difference in brands of boat oil?
[Re: DaddyL]
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Outdoorsman
Registered: 12/16/11
Posts: 98
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Don't know if this is true or not. But my neighbor took all his penzoil out of his boat because the bass cat dealer told him the full synthetic clogs the screen and deprives the motor of oil. Gave me the whole gallon. Don't know if i should use or not. Anyone heard this before.
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#7133181 - 02/05/12 12:37 AM
Re: Is there a difference in brands of boat oil?
[Re: DaddyL]
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TFF Celebrity
Registered: 09/26/05
Posts: 7240
Loc: Lewisville
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I don't know too much about 2 cycle oil, but I do know this much: if you have a Mercury Optimax or other direct-fuel-injected two stroke, you should be using DFI oil ... TCW3 will not be your friend in the long term. DFI oil is more expensive no matter what the brand name.
If you want to save money on oil, wait for it to go on sale at your preferred store or buy it by the case at a discount ... or register with your store for coupons by mail ... pick up store gift cards on ebay ... but why take a chance of damaging your outboard just to save a couple dollars on oil?
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#7141530 - 02/07/12 07:23 AM
Re: Is there a difference in brands of boat oil?
[Re: Zeek the Greek]
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Outdoorsman
Registered: 09/05/10
Posts: 42
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Ok, I posted the original question. There are numerous opinions about the brands of oils used. Additives some have that others do not. I have had one guy swear you do not change things up, keep running same brand of oil all the time, another says he uses whatever he can find cheap and has no problems. He has boats in Mexico, and two different places in the U.S. and has run numerous 2 cycles. Never had a problem changing brands as long as being certified. So, keep same brand or alternate not bad?
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#7141842 - 02/07/12 08:57 AM
Re: Is there a difference in brands of boat oil?
[Re: DaddyL]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 917
Loc: cedar creek lake
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Ok, I posted the original question. There are numerous opinions about the brands of oils used. Additives some have that others do not. I have had one guy swear you do not change things up, keep running same brand of oil all the time, another says he uses whatever he can find cheap and has no problems. He has boats in Mexico, and two different places in the U.S. and has run numerous 2 cycles. Never had a problem changing brands as long as being certified. So, keep same brand or alternate not bad? What brand are you now useing ?
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#7145466 - 02/08/12 12:21 AM
Re: Is there a difference in brands of boat oil?
[Re: DaddyL]
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Green Horn
Registered: 02/07/12
Posts: 5
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There are great differences between boat oils in brands.It has wide variety of quality. Renowned brand oil makes the boat well.
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#7145775 - 02/08/12 06:55 AM
Re: Is there a difference in brands of boat oil?
[Re: lakeman]
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Registered: 09/05/10
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#7147243 - 02/08/12 12:43 PM
Re: Is there a difference in brands of boat oil?
[Re: DaddyL]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 08/16/05
Posts: 634
Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
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Very informative thread. Thanks especially to you guys with knowledge about the formulation and testing protocol necessary to meet TCW-3 lubricant requirements by the NMMA.
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#7147642 - 02/08/12 02:11 PM
Re: Is there a difference in brands of boat oil?
[Re: DaddyL]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 05/21/02
Posts: 1164
Loc: San Antonio, Texas
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So, what is the bottom line on this tread??
Which oil?
Any Marine Mechanics here that could give us any input??
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#7155110 - 02/10/12 09:09 AM
Re: Is there a difference in brands of boat oil?
[Re: ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 08/16/08
Posts: 758
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I found over the years to buy the best oil you can afford and buying the motor's mfg. oil is always a good idea. These oils are always formulated to work with the fuel and air delivery system for maximum performance.....I have on occasion used Penzoil outboard oil as well with good result. Cheap oil will cost you in the long run because it doesn't burn as clean and can lead to fouling and in most cases piston gauling which turns into a huge "CHA CHING" at the cash register at you local boat dealer, the reason for that........most of these of cheap oils are missing critical additives.......one of the reasons they are cheap..... I use the E-tec full synthic for this reason in my carbd 150 johnson. It dose not smoke or leave any residue of carbon on the plugs! The down side is th cost but well worth it.
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#7156348 - 02/10/12 02:06 PM
Re: Is there a difference in brands of boat oil?
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 11/02/07
Posts: 1245
Loc: KRUM, TEXAS
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Why would someone spend 20k on an engine and try to save $2.00 on a gallon of oil? Doesn't make sense to me. This argument reminds me of something that came up many years ago. I bought a new motorcycle and wanted to buy a new helment also. A friend of mine was with me who raced bikes. I asked him if there was a difference in the $20 helmets and the $100 helmets. He said "if you have a $20 head, get a $20 helment!" I bought the $100 one. I use the good oil too. There is a difference IMHO. THIS I only run the high dollar DFI oil in my optimax. I'm not sure if its any better than any other oil, but for about $60 a year price difference, I'm not gonna risk it.
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#7157966 - 02/10/12 10:48 PM
Re: Is there a difference in brands of boat oil?
[Re: DaddyL]
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Outdoorsman
Registered: 12/06/03
Posts: 219
Loc: sherman texas
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A wise man once told me in a discussion of oil: Make sure it has some of some kind in it!
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