Quantcast
Main Menu
Forum
Guidelines/Rules
Photo Contest
TFF Store
Guides/Destinations
Contact/Advertising
Hunting Forum
Other Forums
Advertisement
Affiliates
J.P. Greeson's Weekly Fishing Report
Larry Bozka's Coastal Anglers
Big Billy Kinder Outdoors
Texas Fishing & Outdoors Show
Honey Hole All Outdoors Television
Barry Stokes’ Southwest Outdoors Report
Advertisement
Newest Members
Csalaun00, zenolika, hookedon, vijitha, BuckeyeAngler
71449 Registered Users
Top Posters
TexDawg 51151
JDavis7873® 50257
David Lee 50063
Pilothawk 47986
FattyMcButterpants 47220
John175 ® 45740
OldFrog 45060
Tritonman 44366
Big Red 12 38200
TreeBass 36335
Forum Stats
71448 Members
54 Forums
574563 Topics
7189430 Posts

Max Online: 21159 @ 10/25/10 03:12 PM
AnglerSurvey.com
Page 4 of 4 < 1 2 3 4
Topic Options
#7170283 - 02/14/12 07:38 AM Re: South texas alligator gar trip! [Re: Clark3]
Angler in Training Offline
Outdoorsman

Registered: 11/11/11
Posts: 106
Loc: Ft.Worth
Nice
_________________________

P.B. 37lbs. Blue cat @ Benbrook

Top
#7174461 - 02/15/12 07:04 AM Re: South texas alligator gar trip! [Re: Clark3]
ChuckP Offline
Extreme Angler

Registered: 08/11/09
Posts: 1225
Loc: Lewisville
If you would have caught that on R&R I would be extremely impressed. The fact that you took advantage of this fishes weakness in order to kill it is not impressive. You know they have to come up to breathe so it is a waiting game. Big whoop. I am glad to know that you ate it and I applaud you for it. I doubt if any bowhunters will admit or not but I think that 90% of the fish killed by an arrow are left in the water or bank and not eaten. I never saw a sport in killing for pleasure. I am a very avid hunter, gun and bow, and I won't pull the trigger unless I am going to eat it. That includes pigs. I have goten on to many people for just shooting and leaving. What a crock. You would probably get a better response in the THF than here in the TFF. That was definatly and old fish. Older than anyone on that boat.
_________________________
American by birth, Texan by the grace of God


Top
#7174941 - 02/15/12 09:29 AM Re: South texas alligator gar trip! [Re: Clark3]
Randyj Offline
Outdoorsman

Registered: 01/07/12
Posts: 26
To each their own.................Nice fish!

Top
#7175679 - 02/15/12 12:06 PM Re: South texas alligator gar trip! [Re: Clark3]
TEXAS TWO GUNS Offline
Pro Angler

Registered: 01/13/06
Posts: 596
Loc: Texas
ChuckP, would you have been impressed if it was a big whitetail taken with a bow? Taking advantage of the deer's need to breed or feed? Killing a giant deer with a bow is not much different then killing a giant gar with a bow. If you don't believe me, go try and take a 6' alligator gar.
_________________________
Tony Reeves
Pro-Staff
www.backwaterbowfishing.com
http://cajunarchery.com/index.html
Sponsor: Trollingmotorparts.com

Top
#7175805 - 02/15/12 12:41 PM Re: South texas alligator gar trip! [Re: Clark3]
FISHYSMELL aka bhunter Offline
Angler

Registered: 01/26/07
Posts: 258
Loc: BEDFORD, TEXAS
What ever cocks your pistol, as long as its legal fight for your rights. Good ole US of A greatest place on the planet.......

Awsome pics by the way....
_________________________
Favorite Quote "Badges??? We don't need no stinking badges!!!"


Top
#7176060 - 02/15/12 01:44 PM Re: South texas alligator gar trip! [Re: Clark3]
ChuckP Offline
Extreme Angler

Registered: 08/11/09
Posts: 1225
Loc: Lewisville
Texas Two Guns, The most bucks a man can take in the state is 3. Most counties it is 2 or 1. A man can leagally take 1 gar a day 365 a year. I doubt that a hunter would unload his boat and go thru all the time and expense to harvest only 1. I feel that many more than that are being taken. I got my eyes opened about 7 yrs ago when a bow fishing tourney came to the Trinity by lake RC. I was stunned at how many people do it. This is a very large and very popular sport. There is no way to know the true number of gar and other "trash" fish are being killed.

My true complaint is the numbers being harvested. If a man wants to kill his game with a bow and arrow I am for it. I think too many are being taken given the length of time it takes to mature. A trophy whitetail is mature in 5-7 yrs. A gator gar is mature in 30-50 yrs. We have regulations on the numbers of whitetail that can be taken and that resource can be replenished much more rapidly.

I think that the gar has been here since prehistoric times and survived the ice age. I think this animal deserves more credit, respect, and more protection. That is my 2 cents.
_________________________
American by birth, Texan by the grace of God


Top
#7176137 - 02/15/12 02:04 PM Re: South texas alligator gar trip! [Re: C.M.Fish]
Dawson Hefner Offline
Extreme Angler

Registered: 09/10/09
Posts: 1884
Loc: Tyler, Tx
Originally Posted By: C.M.Fish
Originally Posted By: Texas Megafish Adventures
I am not arguing for or against bow fishing here. The links I posted were directed towards some very bad information posted by another person regarding the life cycle and eating habits of alligator gar.


I fall on my sword for not making a disclaimer on my earlier post such as "I admit that I have not done any FORMAL research and am only going off of what a guide, who has been focused on alligator gar and carp for the better part of 30 years, has told me...but this is what I was told"....I admit that I should have dug a little deeper before I posted and hey....I made a mistake. That being said I'm glad that the misinformation was pointed out and aplaude those that posted links to good information...and "boo" those that react out of emotion instead of simply saying..."You're misinformed, here's some better info you may want to take a look at..." but hey...nobody handles everything right all the time....and that's all I have to say about that.....On another note, I have been to your site and it looks like you are good at what you do and have a passion for the fish and the adventure they provide...guess that's why you reacted the way you did...


You are right. I should have just said someone has been telling you some "stories". I suppose being applauded then booed is only appropriate. Lets go have a beer sometime
_________________________

www.texasmegafishadventures.com for guided rod and reel alligator gar angling
Licensed Guide Dawson Hefner
903-721-4296

Top
#7179920 - 02/16/12 11:55 AM Re: South texas alligator gar trip! [Re: Clark3]
TEXAS TWO GUNS Offline
Pro Angler

Registered: 01/13/06
Posts: 596
Loc: Texas
"Since 2009, 130 harvested alligator gar have been collected and aged from anglers at Trinity River bowfishing tournaments. Using information obtained from tournaments, biologists were also able to estimate harvest rates of alligator gar at the events. Only about one alligator gar was harvested for every four bowfishers at the Trinity River tournaments, and it took an average of 50 angler-hours to harvest an alligator gar at a tournament. Angers harvested an average of 21 fish each year 42 inches or longer during the three studied tournaments, or about 5 percent of the sustainable annual harvest of 400 fish. This level of harvest from tournaments alone is well below estimated sustainable levels; however, biologists still need more information to determine what total percentage of alligator gar are harvested annually outside of bow fishing tournaments and using other methods like rod and reel."
_________________________
Tony Reeves
Pro-Staff
www.backwaterbowfishing.com
http://cajunarchery.com/index.html
Sponsor: Trollingmotorparts.com

Top
#7179940 - 02/16/12 11:59 AM Re: South texas alligator gar trip! [Re: Clark3]
TEXAS TWO GUNS Offline
Pro Angler

Registered: 01/13/06
Posts: 596
Loc: Texas
I think your talking about the 1st Gar Bonanza, it was held on the Trinity, we used the store in Cayuga for a meeting place. There were 10 alligator gar taken that day only a couple over 5 foot long. I can't remember exactly but there were over 50 contestants that spent all day, and many hours before that day scouting, to take those fish. On top of that, those contestants fished from from Livingston up to Trinidad or further to take those 10.
_________________________
Tony Reeves
Pro-Staff
www.backwaterbowfishing.com
http://cajunarchery.com/index.html
Sponsor: Trollingmotorparts.com

Top
#7215948 - 02/26/12 12:19 AM Re: South texas alligator gar trip! [Re: Dawson Hefner]
C.M.Fish Offline
Outdoorsman

Registered: 01/21/11
Posts: 148
Loc: Duncanville, TX
Originally Posted By: Texas Megafish Adventures
Originally Posted By: C.M.Fish
Originally Posted By: Texas Megafish Adventures
I am not arguing for or against bow fishing here. The links I posted were directed towards some very bad information posted by another person regarding the life cycle and eating habits of alligator gar.


I fall on my sword for not making a disclaimer on my earlier post such as "I admit that I have not done any FORMAL research and am only going off of what a guide, who has been focused on alligator gar and carp for the better part of 30 years, has told me...but this is what I was told"....I admit that I should have dug a little deeper before I posted and hey....I made a mistake. That being said I'm glad that the misinformation was pointed out and aplaude those that posted links to good information...and "boo" those that react out of emotion instead of simply saying..."You're misinformed, here's some better info you may want to take a look at..." but hey...nobody handles everything right all the time....and that's all I have to say about that.....On another note, I have been to your site and it looks like you are good at what you do and have a passion for the fish and the adventure they provide...guess that's why you reacted the way you did...


You are right. I should have just said someone has been telling you some "stories". I suppose being applauded then booed is only appropriate. Lets go have a beer sometime


...A beer...hell...let's have 2 or 3!
_________________________

Top
Page 4 of 4 < 1 2 3 4



1998-2012 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide