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Posted By: firemanfisher10

POC - 07/26/15 10:54 PM

I am a new boat owner and I love going down to POC and I have yet to find a good spot that can produce more then hard heads and gaftop.. I have plenty of tackle and passion for paying my dues to find my own spots.. My patients is wearing thin.. Is there anybody out there willing to help me out on a spot that produces reds n trouts.. Not trying to take anybodies spots, Im only down there once a month.. I just want to catch fish when I go!!!! Anything helps???
Posted By: Pat Goff

Re: POC - 07/27/15 01:24 AM

What kind of boat?
How are you fishing?
It's on right now if you give it a chance.
Posted By: firemanfisher10

Re: POC - 07/27/15 02:14 AM

19" bay sport tunnel V, 90 Honda with jack plate.. Ive ran in real skinny water no problem or deeper water, just can't lay into them. Im using all kinds of stuff. Live croaker, dead cut bait, popping corks, spoons, artificials out the rear.. found god clear water with high salinity.. don't know what Im doing wrong???
Posted By: Pat Goff

Re: POC - 07/27/15 12:20 PM

Don't know about slinging bait, but it's pretty easy right now catching on hardware.

If you've got tide moving, the cuts, passes and reefs are holding a lot of trout, we use hogie super minnow in pumpkin/chartreuse when it's cloudy, red/white when the suns out. 1/8 oz oldham head.

If you're not seeing water moving, get in the back lakes with your topwater, same hogie, or sand eel, lot's of redfish herds moving around right now, but you'll need to get really shallow to get after them.

Wading the grassline/potholes on the south shore of Matagorda is producing, look for points or other bottom feature that look interesting. I don't beg fish to bite, or do I sit around long waiting on them.
Posted By: rvrrat14

Re: POC - 07/27/15 02:10 PM

Mitchell's Cut and Saluria towards CG station............when all else fails. All kinds of stuff roams that deep water!
Posted By: firemanfisher10

Re: POC - 07/27/15 04:35 PM

Thanks for the info guys. I'll give some of this new knowledge to the water soon. Another question, is it best to fish like u hunt? do a morning fish, then a night fish? Or does it matter if I fish the whole day with out wasting gas through out the day... More or less do they have feeding times like hunting?
Posted By: firemanfisher10

Re: POC - 07/27/15 04:53 PM

Also how can u really tell if the tides are in or not? I can obviuosly tell if water is up or down but aside NOAA charts which confusing as [censored] so how can u tell? is there a good rule of thumb on time to hit the water or time to go dock at night? Or is it a dumb question and stick to dawn and dusk?
Posted By: ddmm

Re: POC - 07/27/15 05:42 PM

need to get you a good tide chart app for your phone. You'll be doing yourself a favor by learning the tides and watching the moonrise\set times.
We like fishing the falling tides, the fish back off the flats and into the guts waiting on the bait fish to funnel by.
It can be a lot like hunting. Game will be more active around major\minor periods of time than other times.
Posted By: Pat Goff

Re: POC - 07/28/15 03:25 AM

Look down. Is the water moving? That's all I know what to do. Get in a cut or pass and it moves faster.
Posted By: Pat Goff

Re: POC - 07/29/15 08:38 PM

The water in the middle of the bay is junk right now. Reefs and cuts are junk.
Posted By: firemanfisher10

Re: POC - 07/29/15 11:47 PM

That makes a whole lot of sense Pat. I was there a couple weeks ago and it didn't produce nothing but junk.. I'm glad u said that because that makes me feel better the last time I fished the middle bay cuz I couldn't land anything wading..

I've read a lot of reviews on DOA baits, What do you think? Are they any different then any other?
Posted By: Pat Goff

Re: POC - 07/30/15 12:28 AM

I don't use them, and nobody every wore me out using them.
My selection is pretty basic.
Hogie super minnow: pumpkin/chart. Red/White plum/chart.
Norton original sand eel: tequila/chart baffin magic
Tsunami spook topwater
weedless spoon
chatter bait when you sometimes gotta wake em up.

Never had anyone pull out anything that ever worked better than any of those, but lures are all about confidence, if you think they're working, they will.

I know yesterday, they turned on to red/white and by gosh that's what they wanted far above any other toys thrown at em, so let the fish tell you what they want.
Posted By: firemanfisher10

Re: POC - 07/30/15 04:08 AM

That last statement couldn't be any more real...( let the fish tell u what they want ) I'm gonna give your Hogie super minnow a whirl for sure.. I remember that u saying that a couple times so the fish must like it at some point.. tks for the info buddy I really do appreciate it..

I am really wanting to become a better fisherman in the bay system and your helping me out a ton. tks again.
Posted By: firemanfisher10

Re: POC - 07/30/15 04:12 AM

I just looked up your hogie.. do they sell them at academy or bass pro shop.. or online only?
Posted By: Capt. Neal Flanagan

Re: POC - 07/30/15 05:08 AM

Go out at Army cut and the spots on your right and left are going to be good ones. Shoalwater Bay is producing some nice reds with long drifts and sight casting. Water clarity is great for now. Just watch the tides, it's about 1-2 foot on high tide and goes out pretty quick when tides start to fall out. The flat out in front of shoreline by Army Hole down to about Pringle entrance is doing well for trout early am. Catching on shrimp popper cork and gulp shrimp popper. Here they are eating spoons there too.
Posted By: firemanfisher10

Re: POC - 07/30/15 06:32 PM

tks jig_guy I'm gonna have to give that a shot for sure..
Posted By: stingray10

Re: POC - 07/31/15 02:27 AM

Lots to say on this subject but I'll try to keep it as short to the point as I can.

First, what I do is go to the TPWD fishing reports and go through every year and check out seasonal patterns to where fish are staging. Secondly, get on google earth pro and use the history button and go to 2009 images to see a vast underside of the water you have not seen before.

Once you've done that, you say hey, it's summer, where are the fish? By your reports you've looked up you know they should be in X. For summer, trout are normally gonna be in deeper water... waste to chest in the morning... I concentrate on grass and sand pockets keying on those depths. When it gets hot, they normally fall off to deeper water such as deeper spoils or reefs for cooler water. Fish like structure, shell, grass, guts.... Fish are triggered by the tide to feed, but the tide readings are only at a given place in time at a certain time. For instance, the tide may be high at noon, but it's high at noon at the point it's being read (Pass Cavallo), it may not have even reached a place like pringle lake yet..

This might be the most important... if you are fishing water, looking around and you don't see bait darting, shrimp jumping, slicks, birds diving or gulls hovering, ACTIVITY... MOVE, the water is "dead", so to speak... Find active bait you find fish, they follow the bait. Long lobbing mullet is not anything that fits this criteria

Redfish... they love current... drains from back lakes that are running out into the main bay on a falling tide... fish that flat it is dumping into. Wind driven currents on shorelines, pinch points. Reds get further into the shallower water as the tide rises to go search for shrimp, crabs, mullet, menhaden, etc. FOLLOW THE BAIT and what pushes and pulls the bait to areas (THE TIDE)..

This is just the tip of the iceberg, there is seasonality, feeding times, solunar talks, and all sorts of things to talk more about, but for right now if you stick to these few topics, your luck will turn from bad to muuuuuuch better.

Hope it helps, I fish POC as my family owns a condo down there. We are in a red El Pescador, say hi if you ever see us.

Tight lines!
Posted By: firemanfisher10

Re: POC - 07/31/15 08:49 PM

tks for the info sting ray that was a lot of good info for anybody reading this thread. I like to think that Im fair at chasing bait and sight fishing. I think its more of I need to pay attention to the tides and currents and learn the bay system way better.. Question? Ive been kinda scared to ask this cuz it may be a dumb question, but what are the back lakes? Ive heard people say it a ton. But I didn't want to ask with out looking dumb..

Im in a 19 Baysport with Honda 90 stingray If you see my also.. I normally launch at fishing center
Posted By: Pat Goff

Re: POC - 07/31/15 10:23 PM

Pringle, Contee, long lake, Pats, power, 5th lake...all are back lakes against the island. Pringle is the largest and easiest to get into, also gets the most pressure. You need a very shallow running hull to slip into and out of contee, and a super shallow craft to run into 5th or power. What you'll find is a completely different situation, shallow flats with grass and clear water. Stealth and casting skills will go a long way.

Shoalwater is usually the same deal, only it's on the west side of the bay.

Why I run a jet scooter, when the tides fall out like they were this week, all the shallow sports just wish they could get in the ponds.
Posted By: firemanfisher10

Re: POC - 07/31/15 10:40 PM

now that makes a to of sense Pat. tks for the info. I have the navionics app on my phone and I just looked at those lakes and there showing a ton of hot spots all over the back lakes.
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