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Si Help Needed.......

Posted By: BigPoppa007

Si Help Needed....... - 01/01/17 04:48 PM

My side imaging - Helix 7 - has never looked good to me even scouting at 2-3-4 mph- yesterday while running the trolling motor the side imaging it looked great so then I fired up the big motor and cruising slow and it looked grainy and rough again -put it in neutral and let the boat float but the motor running and it looks good ........so I have to try to reposition the transducer somewhere but on a riveted aluminum boat don't get too many choices- it is right at 15 inches from the motor on the driver side - I don't know if I need to go further from the motor and prop or put it to closer to the center of the boat. I was scouting in timber and there was a major difference in picture

It's not electrical interference as it is on its own battery and motor running but in neutral it looks good.
I do need to raise it as it rooster tails at speed...........




Posted By: tgravley aka lewisvillecatfish

Re: Si Help Needed....... - 01/01/17 05:30 PM

You may find the sweet spot for the transducer. From what I have seen especially on aluminum boats, between the vibration of the boat and the turbulence of the motor it's hard to get a great pic.
Posted By: 44 Diesel

Re: Si Help Needed....... - 01/01/17 05:33 PM

Have you tried trimming motor up? Are you matching screen speed with boat speed? One thing you can test is to raise the transducer you will not get 2d at speed but if the SI improves then you can add a separate 2d transducer to get high speed reading with a y splitter cable
Posted By: rlfisher

Re: Si Help Needed....... - 01/01/17 05:37 PM

I have bout the same boat as yours with hds 8 on it and the si transducer is on the left bout the same as yours but closer to the motor and it works ok just have to raise the motor for good image on both sides. I do have a HB on it also and it will not get a good picture if it is on
Posted By: BigPoppa007

Re: Si Help Needed....... - 01/01/17 05:38 PM

I always match chart speed n boat speed. I was seeing on intronet many have done that Diesel 44.
Posted By: BigPoppa007

Re: Si Help Needed....... - 01/01/17 05:40 PM

Originally Posted By: tgravley aka lewisvillecatfish
You may find the sweet spot for the transducer. From what I have seen especially on aluminum boats, between the vibration of the boat and the turbulence of the motor it's hard to get a great pic.


My Mariner is rough at low speeds too.......shakes.........my prop is beat up too........
Posted By: BigPoppa007

Re: Si Help Needed....... - 01/01/17 05:43 PM

Originally Posted By: 44 Diesel
Have you tried trimming motor up? Are you matching screen speed with boat speed? One thing you can test is to raise the transducer you will not get 2d at speed but if the SI improves then you can add a separate 2d transducer to get high speed reading with a y splitter cable


When you use 2 transducers and a Y cable do you have to tell it which to read.? Switch it or it'll pick up whatever signal depending on what screen mode you are in.?
Posted By: BigPoppa007

Re: Si Help Needed....... - 01/01/17 05:46 PM

So far I'm not benefiting from Si and I miss my 859 - it was faster on mapping and even better 2D images..... bang
Posted By: 44 Diesel

Re: Si Help Needed....... - 01/01/17 05:48 PM

No, the way the plug is pinned out you will constantly be reading si/di/2d. Be just like using one transducer. I have 2 on the back of a tracker. The hdsi and a 2d transducer and it works great
Posted By: BigPoppa007

Re: Si Help Needed....... - 01/01/17 05:49 PM

Originally Posted By: 44 Diesel
No, the way the plug is pinned out you will constantly be reading si/di/2d. Be just like using one transducer. I have 2 on the back of a tracker. The hdsi and a 2d transducer and it works great


Can you post pic of ducer locations.?
Posted By: Txmedic033

Re: Si Help Needed....... - 01/01/17 05:56 PM

I had a clear picture on my aluminum boat and had my transducer mounts at least 6" above the bottom of my transom. It also helps to protect the expensive transducer.
Posted By: 44 Diesel

Re: Si Help Needed....... - 01/01/17 06:03 PM



Posted By: BigPoppa007

Re: Si Help Needed....... - 01/01/17 06:09 PM

If I go to 2 ducers what 2D ducer do I get.?
Posted By: 44 Diesel

Re: Si Help Needed....... - 01/01/17 06:18 PM

http://www.humminbird.com/Products/XNT-9-20/

I have a splitter cable you can have
Posted By: BigPoppa007

Re: Si Help Needed....... - 01/01/17 06:23 PM

Cool.
Posted By: BigPoppa007

Re: Si Help Needed....... - 01/03/17 07:18 AM

I raised my ducer at same spot - Got rid of the Rooster tail but Si still looks rough when prop is turning. Looks Good with motor running but in neutral or on trollling motor.......I ordered another mounting board from Amazon -$14.99 vs $40 from Cabelas. When it gets here I'm gonna move it towards the center more. Still had bottom reading/depth at Speed (only 34 mph in my old junky boat).

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0000BVFUT/ref...ransducer+plate
Posted By: Spud--Cattin Around Adventures

Re: Si Help Needed....... - 01/03/17 04:21 PM

is your transom completely flat?? My blue wave the transom has a slight concave to it. I ran a string form end to end and found that out. I fixed my issue with installing a thin washer behind one side of mounting bracket to make it "true".
Posted By: 44 Diesel

Re: Si Help Needed....... - 01/03/17 05:25 PM

Have you tried trimming motor up while idling? If you can next time out post a screenshot.
Posted By: BigPoppa007

Re: Si Help Needed....... - 01/03/17 06:31 PM

Next trip I'll take pics/screenshots of good screen and bad at same spot in timber.
Posted By: Smoky

Re: Si Help Needed....... - 01/03/17 07:10 PM

You need to move your side imaging ducer down next to the other transducer and mount it the same way...with the bottom of the transducer even with the bottom of your boat. Will work there!!
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