Ended up going to Cedar Creek bridges and man it was good! Lots of dinks (as always in the summer time) but they were hitting 10-14ft down in 15-20 fow. I was using a tandem rig, 2 1/16th about a foot and a half apart with a bobby garland threadfin shad color. Seemed like they liked it when it was moving. Had hits on the way down, coming up, and side to side and even pitching it out and letting it fall towards you. Most were 11" that I kept with an occasional 14-15" black crappie. 15 total with a cat lol. Thanks for the info on jp which I may hit up later on in the fall.